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Author:  JimXII [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Ultamar Auxiliary

G'day All,

I have just started my first Epic army.
I want to base it around an auxiliary force (IG) that support space marine operations.
This IG regiment will be in support of the Ultramarines Second company.
I dont know how this goes with the fluff, but I like the idea of a spacemarine commander have a dedicated loyal force of cannon fodder to throw at the guns.
So far I have done one chimera and three stands of infantry, as I am just trying to work out the colour scheme I want to use.
The chimera is codex grey and show grey.






Author:  JimXII [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:53 am ]
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These two stands are the scheme that I am thinking of doing the entire regiment with.






Author:  JimXII [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:54 am ]
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This is the first stand (and the first 6mm figs) I painted. It was based of another fellas 28 mm blog. I just liked the colour scheme so much I just wanted to try it. I may still do a company of dismounted infantry in this colour scheme, but at the moment it doesnt really fit with my Ultramarine idea.





Comments and feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Jim




Author:  Legion 4 [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:20 am ]
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Very Nicely Done !   :agree:

Author:  firestorm40k [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:20 am ]
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Really nice painting on these mini's, you're off to a great start!  :cool:

Author:  Honda [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:21 pm ]
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Yes, I think these are very well done. The implied weathering is nicely done!

Author:  Otterman [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:08 pm ]
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Inspiring!

Author:  TheDean [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:59 pm ]
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Overall super great work, however the chimera on the 25mm round looks awkward. The slope on the base is to great in length and fights for visual control, and the chimera it self is to big for that size base.

Please don't take offense to to what I said above, I think your models are beautiful but the base rubs me the wrong way.

Author:  JimXII [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:21 pm ]
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Thanks for the comments Gents.

No Offence at all TheDean. I post to be critisied - otherwise I will not learn.
I was not happy with the base myself, and that's why I didn't bother flocking it just yet.
I was going use a small FOW base, because the chimera actually fits and it is not sooo thick.
What do you guys use for vehicle bases?
Or do you just roll without bases?
Also what do you generally use for flock? This is just standard GW sand and static grass. It goes alright for 28mm, but I am not so convinced that it is effective for 6mm.
Cheers,
Jim




Author:  Spectrar Ghost [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:24 pm ]
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Personally, I go without for non-skimmers. Eldar get a GW 25mm round with a paperclip through it as a flying base. I do know several people that use appropriately sized FoW bases.

Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:30 pm ]
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Personally I don't base (Except for some Eldar stuff), but I'd definitely use the FoW bases if I were.

Author:  Carrington [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:42 am ]
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[Edit]... I realize that my 2c worth below may not be that useful in Oz, though I suspect the woodsies and other wooden shapes have been marketed down under as well -- they originate in your neighborhood, after all.



I glue double-thickness woodsies from Michael's Crafts.  Two rectangle packs (@3.00 each) nets 40 of each of a 2x1" 3/4x1.5" and 1/2x1" bases.  I cut the 2x1 bases to 40mmx25mm for vehicles.

Woodsies Rectangles: Online Supplier

Also at Michael's and other craft stores you can find a 52-bag of alphabet rounds: wooden disks about 1/4 inch thick and 25mm round (with letters of the alphabet printed on them).  These are about 3.50 a bag: and so, at .06 each, generally cheaper than 25mm fender washers.

I think the brand is "Lara's Crafts."
Lara's Crafts Alphabet Discs

Woodsies can be drilled with a 1/4" drill bit to counter-sink infantry, although I've struggled to drill a clean hole -- Dave is much better at this procedure.

Another solution to countersinking is to find thin sheets of craft cork, also at Michael's and other craft stores. This can be cut with scissors, etc, and more importantly, it can be punched with a hole punch.

Sand for flocking, although I started using coffee grounds (I have a variable-grind coffee grinder) and then moved to rice (through the coffee grinder) when I began to think coffee might be expensive for the purpose. I've noticed no ill-effects on my coffee (or the grinder) so far.  (The time I put chocolate chips in the grinder was a disaster, however... but that's a different story).

FWIW I detest the GW 25mm round bases, particularly for this use. It's not that they stand up too high, but that they are difficult to pick up, with the result that I tend to pick bases up by the fragile plastic figures. It's a problem shared by the beveled-edge FOW bases, nice as they are. Hence my liking for the double-thickness woodsie bases.

Litko aerosystems also makes purpose-built plywood bases that are, admittedly, higher quality and more regular than 'woodsies.'

Finally, I continue to be surprised by just how useful elmer's white glue can be in adhering most anything to wood.  Much better than cyano or plastic glue because you can brush it on, and your brush will llve to see another day.  And then there's the fact that a gallon of white glue sells for ~$10... as does a 'large' 2oz bottle of cyanoacrylate.

That said, I just sourced a bunch of cut stone disks (37mm diameter, and, I'm told, 25mm diameter).  I may start playing around with these as well.




Author:  Spectrar Ghost [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:06 am ]
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Other options for infantry bases:
1) Plasicard - I used 2 Evergreen .040" sheets with a standard hole punch through the top one, and a 1/4" drill bit to clean the edges here:

Then shaped the edges with emory boards. Plastruct would work equally well. (I'd forgotten that picture was so blurred, but you get the idea.)

2) PM Otterman - he is willing to help all his friends...

Author:  Vermis [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:40 pm ]
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Quote: (JimXII @ Feb. 20 2010, 22:21 )

What do you guys use for vehicle bases?

You've gone and turned this into a 'post your bases!' thread.  :smile:

Board game counters.  Link.  22mm for light vehicles, 31mm for normal vehicles, 38mm for larger vehicles and superheavies.

On basing: I know what you mean.  Your static grass looks fine, but with 6mm minis I'm paranoid it could start to look like elephant grass.  On that note I've started looking at Woodland Scenics' fine and blended turf.
I still have to try it out, though.  But it's a suggestion.

And before I forget: top notch painting.




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