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Designing a Large Ordinance Platform
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Author:  Lsutehall [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:41 pm ]
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Hi there,

I've been lurking around here for a couple of months now, but this is my first post. I've started an Eldar army (of which I'll post photos at some point when I have more of them done), however I was reading through E&C's Skitarii list and came to the conclusion that there was no model to represent an Ordinatus Majoris (or Minoris for that matter).

I figured I'd have a go at making my own, just for fun. If you'll excuse my crude sketch, here is what I propose.



The overall layout is similar to the existing Ordinatus models, with the weaponry being transported by a tracked 3-car "train" (think space shuttle transporter crossed with Thunderbirds elevator car). However I dislike the height of the existing models, and thought that the design would look better if it was more horizontal. I'm thinking of a large "battledeck" carried above the transporter holding generators, superstructure, secondary weapons, an Arvus-sized landing pad and a pair of slots to fit Battle Titan class weaponry.

I was considering scratchbuilding, but now I'm thinking I might make a generic version as a Shapeways project. Overall length will probably be in the 10-12cm range (or large enough to fit an Arvus/Valkyrie on the pad).

Thoughts and comments?
Author:  BlackLegion [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:48 pm ]
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Welcome here :)

Interesting project. I will have an eye on this.  :agree:
Author:  mnb [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:41 pm ]
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welcome aboard
how are the titan weapons going to be attached? meaning are they going to be sculpted as part of the unit or in such a way that, if using magnets they could be taken on and off?
Author:  Legion 4 [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:28 pm ]
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Welcome to the show !!  All new ideas are always welcome !!!   :agree:
Author:  semajnollissor [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:58 pm ]
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As a matter of personal preferrence, I think that the "tractor" portion ought to have a distinctive imperial form, maybe like the light tanks and gun transporters in the seigemasters range. I always thought that the original model lacked this 'imperial-ness.'

The carriage probably ought to have a uniform width (i.e. the front and rear tracks ought to have the same width). I think you may be able to put across the massive nature of the carriage if you ditched the 2 pairs of tracks from the old official model, and instead went with 3 or 4 pairs of slightly smaller tracks, like when a semi-truck carries a very large load on a trailer with multiple rear axles.

Also, something that might make the thing look more realistic is if you make it look articulated. Instead of one big battledeck, perhaps have a smaller deck segment attached to each track pair, then have flex hoses and articulated catwalks connecting between them.
Author:  Angel_of_Caliban [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:54 am ]
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Quote: (semajnollissor @ Sep. 25 2009, 11:58 )

Also, something that might make the thing look more realistic is if you make it look articulated. Instead of one big battledeck, perhaps have a smaller deck segment attached to each track pair, then have flex hoses and articulated catwalks connecting between them.

I like this idea too but the large battledeck gives ppl are bigger area to place there own weapons loadouts. I also like the track pattern as the originals ones.

Possible idea to make with the individual deck it would be easier to make minor ones as you could just opt to leave a deck out.

Do you plan on perhaps casting some for personal use and maybe some "friends"? Or is this a sketch that one of our other "friends" could produce?  :whistle:

Either way awesome work!!  :)
Author:  Lsutehall [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Designing a Large Ordinance Platform
Quote: 

By mnb | Posted on Sep. 25 2009, 18:41
welcome aboard
how are the titan weapons going to be attached? meaning are they going to be sculpted as part of the unit or in such a way that, if using magnets they could be taken on and off?


I'm planning on having the weapons attach the with the same post and hole system as they attach to titans with. It might be possible to use magnets, if you can get some small enough.


Quote: 

As a matter of personal preferrence, I think that the "tractor" portion ought to have a distinctive imperial form, maybe like the light tanks and gun transporters in the seigemasters range. I always thought that the original model lacked this 'imperial-ness.'

The carriage probably ought to have a uniform width (i.e. the front and rear tracks ought to have the same width). I think you may be able to put across the massive nature of the carriage if you ditched the 2 pairs of tracks from the old official model, and instead went with 3 or 4 pairs of slightly smaller tracks, like when a semi-truck carries a very large load on a trailer with multiple rear axles.

Also, something that might make the thing look more realistic is if you make it look articulated. Instead of one big battledeck, perhaps have a smaller deck segment attached to each track pair, then have flex hoses and articulated catwalks connecting between them.


I've been working on a 3D version of the tractor:



I decided to work on the tractor unit first, which may have been a mistake as I'm not sure what it ought to look like. I decided that the unit in the sketch is too "clean future", and decided to go for something different.

It's ok as a first go, but I'm not entirely happy with it. It doesn't quite feel "right", but i'm drawing a blank at the moment on how to improve/redesign it.

Articulating the carriages is possible, but doing something with the upper decks will be harder. I'm still pondering this. I hadn't given any though to steering when I designed it!
Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:34 pm ]
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I tend to agree. A bit too high-tech to look properly Imperial.

Imperial vehicles in general seems to be rather clunky-looking so first of all I suggest that you upsize the track sections quite a bit (double size maybe?). Personally I think some exposed track looks nice from a painting POV. Nick a few signature shapes from Imperial vehicles like exhausts, the front drive wheel bogey etc.
Also Imperial designs tend not to have too many curved shapes so I'd make the bit on the roof angular instead. Maybe some detailed hathes and a roof mouted bolter sponson of sorts. Also you could add some industrial looking features like gider work in a few select spaces. Also don't forget rivets! Very Imperial :D
Since this thing is Adeptus Mechanicus then maybe a small radar dish of sorts too?
Author:  Legion 4 [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:39 pm ]
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Looks good !!  :agree:
Author:  mnb [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:58 pm ]
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a good start
i agree though it doesn't look quite right. maybe a bit more boxy like the old leviathans.
Author:  Lsutehall [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Designing a Large Ordinance Platform
Ok, so if you'll excuse the rough model and the old tractor unit, here is the first mock-up of what I had in mind for this project:



The 2 deck sections are articulated in the middle, and should have some power cables etc running from the generators at the back to the control and weapons sections on the front half. I'm not happy with much of it yet, but it's a start.
Author:  ulric [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:57 am ]
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A start is better than nothing  :agree:

Keep the decks a bit sleeker
and what about mounting the gatling cannon in turrets
maybe like the airdefensive turrets on US carriers
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