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Is this guy a re-caster?
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Author:  frogbear [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:17 am ]
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Hi All

Just saw this guy selling allot of bare metal epic and I cannot help but wonder if he is a recaster. Anyone know?

http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ ... ssZlsb1310

If that does not work his name on ebay is lsb1310

I would just like to be well informed as I would not like to pay 'top dollar' for recasts.

Thanks
Author:  Onyx [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:32 am ]
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I was wondering the same thing.

He's been selling a lot of Epic recently and quite often, it's the same photos used over  and over again. He's got so much stuff...
Author:  Erik M [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:43 am ]
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If it's E40 stuff one might think about it.
If it's EA then it might be a step up...
Author:  daemonkin [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:46 am ]
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While I do not condone his actions or what he is doing, if GW have lost or destroyed the molds for the older variants then guys like this can only be good for us supporters.

Yes, he is making an illegal copy and selling for profit but there is no other way of getting some of the old models. And by buying from him instead of GW we are no doubt weakening the stance of Specialist Games ever making a comeback but, lets face it, GW will never give our game systems the attention and love they deserve.

I for 1 will be buying some of the models just to add a bit of flavour to my armies only if I can get them for a reasonable amount. I mean GW are asking £30 for a Leman Russ formation with badly cast sponsons, turrets and flash lines. This guy's ware appears to be better than the GW re-mould job.

D.
Author:  zedmeister [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:29 am ]
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I've bought a few guard pieces off him. I doubt very much they are recasts. They're mint and have none of the usual signs of being a recast; blown models, twin moldlines, etc.
Author:  Erik M [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:54 am ]
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You mean they don't look like they are E:A but actual E40?
Author:  Major_Gilbear [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:02 am ]
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His name is Leon Sean Burchill, and I understood he was an ex-GW staffer who bought metric tonnes of models back in the days when GW sold metal models to its staff by weight. I guess, due to its size/weight, that Epic has a high proportion markup. I've bought lots of Epic and BFG off him (some of it still in blisters), and they are clearly not recasts.

There is a chap on EBay who does regularly sell Specialist Games recasts though, and his stuff is rather obvious (weapons are slimmer and miniatures are a slightly more fragile than they should be, softer grey metal). Still, they're not bad casts and he tends to supply the hard-to-get-hold of stuff.
Author:  Major_Gilbear [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:09 am ]
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Quote: (zedmeister @ 24 Feb. 2009, 09:29 )

[...] usual signs of being a recast; blown models, twin moldlines, etc.[...]

I have to junp in here and say that these are not great indicators of genuine models. They can be, but not for SG stuff in my experience.

For example, my friend bought two boxed of Delaque gangers directly from GW, and has a lot of duplicate models. I agreed to convert some for him to increase the variety of weapon loadouts. In doing so, I was cleaning the models up and found that they had two very distinct sets of mouldlines, which in some places were 2mm apart!

Clearly then, multiple mouldlines is not something to gauge GW models by if trying to determine orignals/recasts.

I usually go by material more than anything; the stuff GW uses is quite distinct from what recasters use, even in older lead figures. Generally, the GW material is higher quality metal.
Author:  GlynG [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:21 am ]
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It's possible, I think that might be the third IG Siege Company he's selling. Then again perhaps he's a rich collector / staff member who bought a load (I certainly picked up a ton of stuff which at weight prices for epic worked out at only a tiny fraction of retail, though they stopped this option years back now and I kick myself for not having picked up several tons more).

If he were a caster would be really be selling multiple lots as incomplete? Including a Capitol Imperialis, which presumably would sell for much more complete than incomplete. And he seems to be selling plastic and resin auctions too, not just metal. Or perhaps he's just selling a mix of cast and non-cast to throw people off the scent. Who knows at the end of the day, at least he does have 100% feedback so presumably people are happy with what they've bought either way.

Personally if GW produce a good model I will buy it direct, but I'm fussy and if I can get a better version on ebay or elsewhere then I will.

edited to add: wrote this post up over a while in work, posts since which I hadn't read are now inclining me to think him not a recaster.
Author:  Khan [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:29 pm ]
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I hope he's not ... I have bought several SM&TL units from him `:|
Author:  Reaver [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:42 pm ]
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I'm pretty certain he's not; I've bought stuff from him, and he's bought stuff from me too. I sold him some current SG Space Marine stuff a couple of years ago - IIRC he bought 2 packs of Rhinos from me amongst other things; if he was going to recast, why buy 2 packs?
I think he's just a good trader - he buys stuff, often big lots, breaks it up, and moves it on. If he can make a profit at it, good for him!

But I don't believe he's recasting, and I'd happily continue to but from him.

Regards,
Reaver
Author:  Chroma [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:56 pm ]
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Yeah, speaking as a former GW employee, back when the "Bitz by the gram" thing was going on, as a staffer, you could buy metal "raw" at a price that was, essentially, *90%* off retail...  all that mattered was the total mass of the metal.

"Bitz-bagging" was the term for someone who knew they were gonna quit (or get fired), where they'd work out all the bitz they could concievably need... and then order that bag before they left.  I sold *tonnes* of 40k stuff off after I left... I just wish I'd bitz-bagged more EPIC!  *LAUGH*
Author:  daemonkin [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:16 pm ]
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Unfortunately I did my stint in the company just after Epic was phased out and could no longer be ordered. I did manage to order a bunch of Necromunda stuff. I gaffed an order thinking you only got 1 bolter and 5 deathwatch pads on a sprue and ordered 100 sprues for about £2 - ended up with 500 bolters and 500 shoulder pads.

Woops!

D.
Author:  Chroma [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:28 pm ]
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Quote: (daemonkin @ 24 Feb. 2009, 16:16 )

I gaffed an order thinking you only got 1 bolter and 5 deathwatch pads on a sprue and ordered 100 sprues for about £2 - ended up with 500 bolters and 500 shoulder pads.

And you didn't care cuz it was so cheap!  *laugh*

That's why, back in the day, GW employees could have the *craziest* conversions and customizations... I've still got bags of stuff in storage... though they've been greatly depleted over the years.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:47 pm ]
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Well my one buddy used to work for G/W US and employees got stuff dirt cheap !  And in many cases that's where I got my unreleased and limited released stuff !  :))  You got to have a man on the inside.  :blues:  Now that being said, IF ... something is recast and it is a good cast + he's not over charging you ... What's the difference ?   Since G/W has destroyed most/all the old molds, that could even be used as a legal defense.  My one lawyer buddy (I've got a couple, it comes with my line of work !) said, even making 6mm models of stuff they only make in larger scale, could be used as a defense ... Of course ... I guess it would depend on the lawyers' savvy, among other things ...  8v)
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