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| Author: | Frecus [ Sat May 24, 2008 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | My first forays into milliput |
I was just trying my first hand at milliput. I did try some minor stuff with greenstuff, but never got much farther than gap-filling and some very rough detailing (like sculpting hair & a skirt on a 28 mm model). Now I have some tiny sculpure done with milliput (roughly 6 mm), without any real detail (you can recognise arms, legs, head & rear end, but nothing beyond that), and intend to try out making a mould into another piece of milliput once it's dry (I've seen someone do something similair with GS). Now what I want to know is: what is milliput capable of in this respect? How much detail can you press into it? Is it stupid to try it because it won't work anyway? Any tips regarding milliput & this mould? Frecus The glade wanderer Madwarrior |
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| Author: | zombocom [ Sat May 24, 2008 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | My first forays into milliput |
I wouldn't recommend mould making with miliput. Unlike greenstuff it dries extremely hard, so is unsuitable as a mould material. Also, while wet it is absorbant so will absorb whatever lubricant you use to stop the model sticking to it. In short, it won't work. |
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| Author: | Frecus [ Sat May 24, 2008 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | My first forays into milliput |
Wouldn't a harder material work better? I mean, pressing this rock-hard milliput thingy into a soft piece of miliput (and vice versa, putting soft milliput into a hard mold) should make for a good cast no? And what about pressing a milliput figure into greenstuff? Would that work? Frecus The glade wanderer Madwarrior |
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| Author: | zombocom [ Sat May 24, 2008 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | My first forays into milliput |
No, because all good moulds require some flexibility in them. Besides, the miliput will just stick to the model and you won't be able to remove it. Unlike greenstuff it will absorb the grease/oil/lubricant used to keep them from sticking. It just won't work. Greenstuff can be used to make a mould, as long as it's a one sided one. Ideally you want to be looking into latex or sillicone rubber though. |
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| Author: | loofnick [ Sun May 25, 2008 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | My first forays into milliput |
Just being doing a little Millieput molding this week, in a very amateurish fashion. It does work in a limited fashion. You have to brush some veg oil on to the model when making a mold, and onto the mold when casting. Works fine for basic mold making, and with good detail. Just don't use any excess of oil. Haven't noticed problems from absorption. However for casting, it is too clay-like to easily skim-off the top of the mold, leaving you with a large excess. Also you have to remove it (peel it out) while it's still flexible; when hard it is brittle and difficult to trim down, often producing cracks and breaking off pieces. I've actually made a passable mole mortar copy using a Milliput mold, and using flexible gap filler (standard DIY stuff) to cast in it (for very small models only!). Other materials would definately do a better job though. |
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| Author: | loofnick [ Sun May 25, 2008 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | My first forays into milliput |
Picking casts out of Milliput molds is pretty tricky. Is this the reason for wanting flexible molds? So, you can peel-off the mold not pick-out the cast? So, the ideal would be a liquid casting material, to get it in all the corners and level, and a flexible mold to avoid damaging the cast on removal? having removes a sample infantry figure, flexible gap filler is an unsurprising no-no  |
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| Author: | Reaver [ Sun May 25, 2008 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | My first forays into milliput |
The important thing with moulding and casting is that either the master model or the moulding material needs to have some 'give', some level of flexibility. If both are rigid, you'll have huge problems separating them. Generally, it's preferable for the mould to be flexible - as you'll usually want the master model and your casts to be rigid. It also sounds like you are trying to make little 'blanks', (partially filled out armatures) to sculpt onto. For that you'd really need a two part mould. I can't see Milliput working for that, I'm afraid. Regards, Reaver |
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