Space marines should be around 7 mm's tall if you go for 1mm = 1 foot so 4 times 7mm equals 28mm a 40k figures height which makes my model true scale to me. Also FW's castellum is said to be able to just fit a Thunderhawk Gunship on its deck and my model can just take a true scale FW epic thunderhawk in the same fashion.

If you look at earlier pictures you will see that the battlements especially the small annex will take a 40mm strip base the standard epic base which would not fit on a smaller scale model. If the model was any smaller bases would not fit on the walls and the ramps would be to narrow for larger vehicles to pass through.

That's my reasoning behind the size and if you look at the few pictures with models also in the picture you can see that it looks about right scale wise at least to my eyes anyway.

I'll do some pictures with figures to show what i mean.

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It looks spot on mate, its quite common to jig measurements about to make it look true to scale.

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Thanks mate, i feel that my model fits nicely size wise with the general epic range and does look the right scale next to figures.

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So here we have four sets together in FW fashion.

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It looks terrific! Looking forward to your paint skills on a big canvas !

Ive always had a question about to fw model though - I don't have the fw fluff myself - how does it work? I thought it was a deployable forward base? or a gate house to a larger fortress ? There seems to be a lot of wall and armour protecting very small internal space? Is it 30k or 40k ?

Hey Blip 30k mate. It's supposed to be a landing craft deployable modular drop fortress designed to give marine forces a rapid beachead strongpoint for high intensity short duration operations. It can be set up in multiple configurations and within a vey short time frame.

All the ramp areas and the battlement openings have energy gates protecting them which are controlled from the command bunker alongside the weapon systems when fitted.

Here we have a few pictures of the model alongside some epic figures for scale comparison. Looks about right to me. Tactical company manning the walls.

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All of FW's epic infantry, vehicles, superheavies and buildings were done at one fifth scale of their 40k counterparts though*. Their Epic space marines (and GWs ones) were all 6mm tall.

Certain sadly OOP fan made vehicles, walkers, ect were all done at one fifth, what became referred to as 'truescale'.

That means your fortress will be out of scale with pretty much everything else which is a bit unfortunate. The turrets that are dotted over the model are one fifth, so the model won't even scale properly with itself.

It's for use in both 30k and 40k.

It looks great though, regardless of scale. Good work

* their initial titans were done too small, before they really figured out what they were doing, but they said they regretted that and had considered redoing them at one fifth at some point. They never did though alternatives were.

Hi!

Look cool!

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That's largely true. The reasoning was that Epic is 6mm scale and W40K is 30mm, so Epic models should be scaled by 1/5. However, looking at the photos, I really don't see a problem with the size moredakka has made it; it looks just fine to me.

In fact it looks pretty awesome to me.


There's also the fact that FW did their first Epic titans long before their 40K ones, so at the time there was no 40K model for them to be 1/5 the size of unless you count the old Armorcast ones.

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actually I reckon FW's epic warhound titans are pretty much bang on scale.... they're ~40mm tall and in the fluff they're stated to be 12.1metres (according to lexicanum anyway)

converting that to millimetres gives 12100, then dividing by 300 gives 40.33mm, if you'd prefer 1:285 scale, then you're looking at 42.456mm

the now OOP 'truescale' titans are significantly bigger than that.... probably close to 50%

let's bear in mind that 40k scale is terrible with 5 foot tall marines being overshadowed by guardsmen and pretty much every other model.... it's also majorly screwed up with heroic scale infantry mixed with 'truescale' vehicles

The obsession with truescale really bugs me as GW is horrifically inconsistent with their model scale anyway...

edit: actually looks like I'm wrong and they're meant to be 14m tall.... ignore me!

although doing the sums gives 46.6 or 49.1mm so not so horrifically off-scale, and the 'truescale' ones are way bigger than that

I blame heroic scale which just does not scale up.... look at the mansized space marine they have at WHW.... looks like a duplo-human....

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Kind of regretting my previous post a bit now, it does make sense to make it so epic bases fit on and the local tech-priests could have got the scale wrong on the plans or something. I'm just a grumpy perfectionist with models and scale.

Hey Glyn no worries mate a healthy debate about such things between members is fine with me i'm a bit of a stickler for correct scale myself but have had to accept a rather elastic view where epic is concerned.

Besides FW's model is the Mk23 or something so think of my model as an earlier Mk/pattern, enough said.

Thanks for the kind words and support everybody.

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A few more pictures for you all. I've been playing with different set ups.

First up two castellum sets plus extra walls to make a stageing area/landing zone in between.

Not big enough?, well then how about the second picture much better eh a more serious proposition this one. Oh and at a stretch you can do a linear defence line to, see third picture. I'm enjoying playing around with these.

I think FW lost an opportunity with their one piece designed model as the four seperate pieces give much more flexibility and you can do a lot more with it and add more to it indefinatly.

I have one undercoated now so i will do a quick paint job on it to show the finished product in colour.

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Hi!

That's going to look real good painted.

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