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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 1:36 pm 
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Nope, not to me I'm afraid.  I know I'm imposing logic in a place where it doesnt belong but....

If a Legion has no standard organisation, and could be anything from 20 to 100 titans, than how can Quatro and Demi mean anthing at all? A Quatro of a 100 Titan legion is still more than a full strength 20 titan legion.  The distinction is irrelevant.

The term Demi is used today in some militaries- the French Foreign Legion uses the term Demi-Brigaden similarly to how I've described above

As I said, its probably just me trying to impose a military organisation template where it doesnt belong... and hasnt really been thought about either.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 2:02 pm 
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Thanks for that Tas. You make me feel so much better }:)  :angry:  }:)  :angry:  }:)

I did think this out - It does make sense, as there is no basic standard organisation. If you would like to define what Demi and Quatro mean in terms of Titan Legions please do... Its harder than you think with no basic organisation.

Also the only legion with 20 Titans is Lego Ordo Sinister - With 20 Emperor class titans.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 3:58 pm 
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Yes Chris, that's basically what I came up with based on everything I read. ?Go For it !!! ?G/W had a tendancy to use Latin/Romano terms - Cohort, Maniple, Legion etc., they probably at one time saw the Imperium something likened to the Roman Empire. In their old supplement book "The Astronomicon", all the Space Wolves, had Italian names ! ?I know being second generation Italian ... I was surprised ! Now all the SWs are Nordic, all my cousins must have got killed off !!! And replaced by Scandinavians ! :blush: ?Like I said, many things G/W has left up to us to figure out ... and that may not always be a bad thing ... :D ?Ciao !!! ?:laugh:

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Sorry to bust your bubble there Chris!

L4 is right- it is a GOOD thing that GW doesnt try to do everything.  Whether it is intentional or not, it is good not to spoon feed everybody so now I can organise my Legio differently to Chris, and everybody else.  Mine will be a square structure - now that I have thought about it I like it even more.  My Chaos one will be different though.

There was also passing mention somewhere of a Psychic Titan Legio....

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I thought Legio Sinister had 12 emperor class titans? Might have changed in the new fluff.

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I think after all our discussion, and "fluff" research, as Chris listed, a Titan Legion has, Titans and attached Knights, Tech-guard and Ordinatus. ?After that you're pretty much on your own ... :D

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This must be one of the few things GW hasn't said anything about exact organisation, all they tell us is what is in one (Titans, Knights etc.), then as L4 says you are on your own!

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Quote (Chris @ 02 2003 June,02:07)
This must be one of the few things GW hasn't said anything about exact organisation, all they tell us is what is in one (Titans, Knights etc.), then as L4 says you are on your own!

Yeah, but as we have said, that lack of guidance (or spoonfeeding) shouldnt be a probalem.  We can do what we want.

For me, that means I'll be using the organisation I proposed above with Quatros comprised like old Battlemech Lances

eg Patrol Quatro - 2 Warhounds, 3 Reaver Titan battlegroup
Heavy Quatro - 3 Warlords, 2 Warhounds
Assault Quarto - 5 Warlords
Superheavy Quarto - 2 Imperators, 3 Warhounds

but because its not been cast in stone by GW, every player can design and use their own without fanatical fluff Nazis pointing the accusatory finger at them, so its a good thing :;):

I think the main point is that we looked and cant find it so now its up to us

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...adapt, overcome, improvise ...

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I think I will design my own Organisation for my Titan Legion (If I ever get one  :D ) But your idea's Taz is food for thought. I like the idea of themed "Quatro's" or companies for titans.

The only thing I think I would change is to swap a warhound for a warlord or reaver in the Superheavy quatro. It seems to fit better, in my view.

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Legion-4,

Have you ever tried using Battletech organization?

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Quote (Chris @ 03 2003 June,01:12)
The only thing I think I would change is to swap a warhound for a warlord or reaver in the Superheavy quatro. It seems to fit better, in my view.

Thanks Chris, that was a typo
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I meant...
Superheavy Quarto - 2 Imperators, 3 Warlords

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Maksim, no I have not. But that's a thought.  As I said previously my Titan Legion TO&E is a Hydrid (as many things I do, for Epic), of SM1,SM2 & E40K. I can field Titans, supported by TG + Ordinatus Vehicles.  So it works for us, and as I said before also, we don't always field Titans and when we do there are only 1 or 2 per side.  But we have a system in place based on the fluff and the various rule systems... and it works ! :D

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Quote (Legion 4 @ 03 2003 June,13:49)
we have a system in place based on the fluff and the various rule systems... and it works ! :D

And that is the most important lesson of all isnt it- whatever it is, it has to work for you and your gaming group.

Your are right though L4, it would have to be a monster game to have more than a few titans each (unless you are playing AT).  The most I have seen on one side for a SM2 games was 6 Warlords, butthat was because my mate had 6 and wanted to use them all for kicks :;):

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Like I have said many times in the past, do what works for you and your Boyz.  My one buddy is a Fanatical SM2 Fan (like a Taliban Cleric !) and they always talk about 5 Gargants on the board, etc. ... :o !!!  ???

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