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Warhead
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:08 pm 
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Incoming! has a ton of painting articles in it which have all helped me considerably.


Nice one, thanks. :D

After an a short tickle with chain mail paint on the tracks and a simple 'stripe' company identifier on the side I have come to the finish... well until I can buy some matt varnish spray anyway.



Although not to a good standard I can see where I have gone wrong. I'm still quite pleased with the result so far.  Hopefully finishing the rest of the company will give me the practice I need before tackling my other stuff.

Hey, can anyone tell me how to base my stuff?..  :D

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:50 pm 
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Don't feel bad about not being able to paint as well as some of the more talented people, Warhead. Instead of being discouraged, I've become inspired to try to improve my abilities. Also, I've learned to use the arm's length theory - if it looks good at arm's length, it will look good on the tabletop.  

I definitely could use some more help with painting. My problem with learning painting techniques is that I'm a "show me" person, meaning I learn much better when someone shows me how to do something, rather than just reading how to do it. However, I might be able to get by with more detailed instructions. For example, a sample instruction might say, "thin the wash and the apply to mini." My thoughts are then "how much water?", "apply how - liberally? dry brush? something in between?", etc. If the instruction instead read "thin the wash in 3:1 ratio of water to wash and then apply sparingly", it would be more helpful for me.

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Hi Dwarf Supreme,

I've learned to use the arm's length theory - if it looks good at arm's length, it will look good on the tabletop.  


LOL  :laugh: I find the 'still in the box' theory works for me.

Thanks, I needed that. I'm not really down about it but I do want to learn.

I definitely could use some more help with painting. My problem with learning painting techniques is that I'm a "show me" person, meaning I learn much better when someone shows me how to do something, rather than just reading how to do it. However, I might be able to get by with more detailed instructions. For example, a sample instruction might say, "thin the wash and the apply to mini." My thoughts are then "how much water?", "apply how - liberally? dry brush? something in between?", etc. If the instruction instead read "thin the wash in 3:1 ratio of water to wash and then apply sparingly", it would be more helpful for me.

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I know just how you feel as I am the exact same. It's one thing to read about it and another to be shown how to do it. Still, I wont give up. I'm currently waiting for another 'drowned in wash' mini to dry. I'm gona' try nuking the next one with the liquid soap and see what happens. :D

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Looking at others people work is my motivation to increase my painting quality. Lets just say this years Gothicomp submissions so far are motivating me real hard!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:19 pm 
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congrats on the painting improvement Warhead, looking great!

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This is definitelly a step forward IMO. Epic is all about washes and drybrushing (unless your crazy  :D ) The metal lacks definition though a simple watered down wash of chaos black (3:1 water or even 4:1) will do wonders for it, the rest is great.

Also I wouldn't worry too much about the matt varnish unless you're mini's super shiny

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:37 am 
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Thanks olly, I'll give that a go and post the result. I've already started on a Baneblade and quite happy so far.

Cheers, everyone.  :D

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Go for it ! A black or brown wash, makes all the difference !

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:52 am 
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GW now do a great line of washes. I have used these very effectively with my epic painting - I even stopped painting for 2 months prior to their release.

When I get my guard tanks finished I will post up for you to criticise.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:06 am 
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Hi daemonkin,

Thanks mate, all help appreciated.  :D  What colour are you painting your IG?

GW now do a great line of washes. I have used these very effectively with my epic painting - I even stopped painting for 2 months prior to their release.

I ordered some on Friday and they came yesterday.  :D  I'm going to try Olly's 4:1 mix and see how I go. I'll post the results here.

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Hi TRC,

When really upset I go for my glass jar of break fluid. In go the models, forget about them for a while, then drain into a second jar, into the soapy water and toothbrush them!

I sometimes feel like reaching for the hammer and doing some corrective modelling but so far have resisted the urge.
break fluid... does this strip the paint or something?...

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break fluid... does this strip the paint or something?...


hahaha.... OH YEAH! It sure does, but be sure to wear rubber gloves cus this stuff really isn't good for ya. Never use it with plastic models though, it'll melt plastic into a puddle of goo. I'm not too sure about resin either, i've never tried that.

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The paint stripping guide on the SG forum




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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:12 pm 
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Warhead with the new washes there's no need to water them down (I was talking if using paint) with the washes the more you slop on the more extreme the shading and the heavier the colour influence.
Look forward to seeing the results!

Also with brake fluid its fine for plastics (haven't tried it with resin) I generally just go turpentine for metal, brake fluid for plastics and have tried some simple green which works well on plastics as well (all were scrubbed with toothbrush and soapy water after)




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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:19 pm 
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I use simple green to strip all my models. Much easier to handle and dispose of.
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