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Author:  Dobbsy [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:36 am ]
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In the CANCON Tourney a Phantom titan failed it's holofields save and then reverted to its RA save - or got to re-roll the holofields save I forget exactly - which helped it avoid destruction. Is this correct? I was under the impression that they get one or the other.

Author:  Spectrar Ghost [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:47 am ]
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Swordwind:
1.1.3 Eldar Technology:
Holofields: ...Holofields provide TItans with a special 3+ saving throw that can be taken instead of the Titan's normal saving throw. ...If a vehicle that has a Holofield also has RA, it is allowed to re-roll its saving throw unless hit by Lance.

So yes, 1 or the other, but RA rerolls apply.

SG




Author:  Dobbsy [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:51 am ]
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Thanks Spectrar.

Quote: 

it is allowed to re-roll its saving throw unless hit by Lance.

So if it fails it's Holo save it gets a normal 5+ save or a 5+ RA save as well?




Author:  zombocom [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:01 am ]
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A titan without reinforced armour gets just the 3+ holofield save.

A titan with reinforced armour gets the 3+, then a save on its own armour save.

Author:  Dobbsy [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:05 am ]
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Ahhh, excellent. thanks guys.

Author:  Ginger [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:31 am ]
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Quote: (zombocom @ Jan. 25 2010, 03:01 )

A titan without reinforced armour gets just the 3+ holofield save.

A titan with reinforced armour gets the 3+, then a save on its own armour save.

Which is where the difference between MW and Lance comes in:-

Against MW,
Revenants still get their Holofield save, and Phantom/Warlock get their Holofield save and the RA save
(But it ought to work like this  :down: )

Against MW, Lance and TK weapons
All Eldar titans get only the Holofield save

The point is that the Holofield throws off the aim causing a complete miss which is taken instead of the initial armour throw. This also applies to assaults, where 'Shields' only protect against FF while Holofields protect against both CC and FF.




Author:  stompzilla [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:49 am ]
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That's not true Ginger.  The holofield entry makes specific reference to how MWs affect Eldar titans and reinforced armour.

MW, TK, and lance all deny the re-roll (Which is made not at 3+ but at the base armour value of the titan).

Author:  Ginger [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:21 pm ]
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*re-reads the holofield rules again*

OOPS my bad - stompzilla is right - erroneous text edited

Author:  lord_bruno [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:35 pm ]
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yes, Stompzilla is right, MW is still very useful.

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