In the CANCON Tourney a Phantom titan failed it's holofields save and then reverted to its RA save - or got to re-roll the holofields save I forget exactly - which helped it avoid destruction. Is this correct? I was under the impression that they get one or the other.

Swordwind:
1.1.3 Eldar Technology:
Holofields: ...Holofields provide TItans with a special 3+ saving throw that can be taken instead of the Titan's normal saving throw. ...If a vehicle that has a Holofield also has RA, it is allowed to re-roll its saving throw unless hit by Lance.

So yes, 1 or the other, but RA rerolls apply.

SG

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So if it fails it's Holo save it gets a normal 5+ save or a 5+ RA save as well?

A titan without reinforced armour gets just the 3+ holofield save.

A titan with reinforced armour gets the 3+, then a save on its own armour save.

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Ahhh, excellent. thanks guys.

Which is where the difference between MW and Lance comes in:-

Against MW,
Revenants still get their Holofield save, and Phantom/Warlock get their Holofield save and the RA save (But it ought to work like this   )

Against MW, Lance and TK weapons
All Eldar titans get only the Holofield save

The point is that the Holofield throws off the aim causing a complete miss which is taken instead of the initial armour throw. This also applies to assaults, where 'Shields' only protect against FF while Holofields protect against both CC and FF.

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That's not true Ginger.  The holofield entry makes specific reference to how MWs affect Eldar titans and reinforced armour.

MW, TK, and lance all deny the re-roll (Which is made not at 3+ but at the base armour value of the titan).

*re-reads the holofield rules again*

OOPS my bad - stompzilla is right - erroneous text edited

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yes, Stompzilla is right, MW is still very useful.

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