I've used the primer for my latest Marine army....
The thunderhawks brown is one of the sprays, the name escapes me. I then used GW wash. I have some of the army painter dip but plan to use that on my 28mm romans some day
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| Author: | DCD Hermes [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
The Army Painter Just saw the colored primers and dip cans at my local brick and morter.  Was wondering if anyone has given them a go yet?  Seems like they have a fairly large range of colors.  The bone color primer and medium dip might just be what I'm looking for with my 40K 'nids. |
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| Author: | Mephiston [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
I've used the primer for my latest Marine army.... The thunderhawks brown is one of the sprays, the name escapes me. I then used GW wash. I have some of the army painter dip but plan to use that on my 28mm romans some day
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| Author: | Fomas [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
I haved tried the bone and red primers...very pleased with the results. I had been lookeing for replacements for the long discontinued bleached bone spray and an alternative to Hi Cote red. For some reason trying to find Hi Cote in Ireland is like panning for gold. The only thing rarer is extruded polystyrene. My main interest in Army Painter is their matt anti shine varnish and it is definitely that. It has a very nice softening effect on metallic paints. Dips really aren't my thing...always did like Winsor and Newton peat brown ink. Though I have gotten to like the Citadel washes. Still from some of the samples that I have seen on the net they do seem to do the job. |
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| Author: | Angel_of_Caliban [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
I'm planning on finally getting some painting done and was wondering about the Army painter sprays. I hear they can spray a bit thick. Are they ok on our 6mm infantry or just tanks and WE? |
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| Author: | wargame_insomniac [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
I bought the Army Painter black primer as felt was better value than GW one- I know a friend has bought some of their other primers to do his W40k Ork army- need to see how he has got on with them. I do intend to buy some of their primers myself in the future. As to their dips I know some people love them and some hate them. So far I have only used their dips on my LOTR Uruk Hai. I used their Stong Tone dip- I was really happy how it gave a nice shading effect to both the Uruk Hai armour and leathers. In particular it made the armour look less flat for very little effort and time. I would nt use the dips on every figure but do think they are worth having as an option. I am curious to see how the dips would work on 6mm figures. It might help me get over my mental block for painting 6mm infantry. Cheers James |
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| Author: | Warmaster Nice [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
Recently bought the black primer. The finish seems slightly more glossy than the GW paint, so that may produce slightly different drybrush results over streight black than what I'm used to. Werther this is a god or a bad thing remains to be seen, but the army Painter spray certainly got their price going in their favour. |
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| Author: | Angel_of_Caliban [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
I have seen and heard good things from then for 40k. I just need to find some feedback on using color sprays on 6mm, mainly infantry. I plan on using the plate mail spray for IG(Sliver with Black) and Crons(Sliver and Blue). Tanks I'm not too worried about its the infantry. |
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| Author: | Apocolocyntosis [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
Hmm i could see myself using uniform grey, the dark dip and the matt varnish on my kriege, but it looks like that lot would be almost £40  How does the life/coverage area of the sprays compare to GW? Anyone got a UK based on-line store they'd recommend for army painter products? |
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| Author: | Angel_of_Caliban [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
I've heard from many and good sources that the sprays work well(if you follow the instructions, you must shake the can first!!) and have about double the amount of paint than the GW ones and there the same price so what's not to love? There some great review's with both owners on my local podcast. SoCal Podcast |
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| Author: | thefloppy1 [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
I have the black primer, it does cover very well. even on FW resin I forgot to wash it hasn't peeled off yet. mind you the GW primer did peal almost straight away. as for the dip shade. I have a can of that two. I found that it is better to brush it on to models with large flat surfaces, as it tends to pool on the flats. it is very glossy as well. you really do need to put a mat on it. |
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| Author: | Ghudra [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
Here's a review of their dip from TMP. Just know that you really don't need to pay insane prices for dip unless you want to...  Delthos 09 Feb 2009 3:59 p.m. PST Well, we played with it some last night. Unfortunately my digital camera's batteries need replacing (or maybe the charger or both) as they don't hold a charge anymore, so no pictures. As I said I have Minwax Antique Walnut in the one quart size and my friend has the Army Painter Strong Tone which looks like around half a pint. My first thoughts on opening both cans next to each other is the Army Builder Strong Tone is much darker than I thought it would be. It is very very dark brown, as others have said, I suspect it is very close in color to Minwax Tudor. In looking at the Army Painter Website I thought it was going to be much closer to the Antique Walnut from the in progress shots. The Antique Walnut is a much more red brown and significantly lighter. I can't imagine how dark the Army Painter Dark Tone is. It must be completely black, which looking at their website further it says it is. My next thing to look at was the sniff test. Army Painter and Minwax definitely do not smell the same. Minwax has a stronger sweeter smell than Army Painter, but they are similar in smell. So very similar but different. Next was the viscosity and pigment saturation test. We dipped some strips of paper the same size into each can to the same depth, for the same ammount of time, and pulled them out and let it drip off. As far as we could tell they are equally viscious, with possibly Army Builder being slightly more. They seemed to flow off the paper at the same rate and leave a similar amount on the paper. As the colors were significantly different between the two we couldn't really do a valid test on them, but that being said considering the difference in tones, we felt the pigment saturation levels were similar. We'd need Minwax Tudor or one of the other near black colors to do a more accurate test. Again very similar and impossible to tell the difference. My friend had some Ogre Kingdoms Knoblars painted up so we dipped one of each in each can. They each required a similar number of shakes to get the stain off the figs to a similar level. Again no significant difference, and other than color, they looked similar. The final test was to dip the tip of a finger in and see how it feels and rub it between fingers and such. Because, lets face it, you are gonna get it on your hands, especially if you are using the actual dip method of application and not brushing it on as I prefer. As would be expected they are both very oily and seem to have a similar lubricating effect. Also as with all stains, it clings very well and resists being wiped off with a paper towel. Both seemed to require a similar ammount of effort to clean off our hands with the towel and similar ammount of work with the soap and water. I forgot my mineral spirits at home as well or clean up would have been much easier. In conclusion, in my not so expert opinion, while Army Painter is not Minwax, Army Painter is just a repackaged wood stain and varnish. This is probably due to the fact that Army Painter is a UK based company and it is a UK company's oil based polyurathane stain repackaged. I also suspect that all oil based polyuratahne stains are basically the same and any other companies polyurathane stain will perform the same. The funny thing is that on Army Builders website it says this could be used on a floor or shoes but they don't recommend it. I agree, but for different reasons that what they are implying, at $32 USD dollars per approximately half pint you would have a rediculously expensive finish. My recommendation is save your self $20 USD (which you can spend on new miniatures) and buy a can of Minwax and be just as happy. You'll also be able to dip at least four times as many miniatures as you would with one can of Army Painter which is triple the cost. Unfortunately I can't recommend a Minwax shade as I've only used Minwax Antique Walnut myself, which works really well on reds and yellows. I think they saw a market for people that didn't know better and were looking for a miracle cure for painting armies quick. Don't fall for the hype unless you have lots of excess cash you want to waste. |
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| Author: | Apocolocyntosis [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
Thanks Ghudra, i don't think ill bother with army painter dips then. In which case, anyone know a UK supplier of minwax or a comparable product available in the UK? Minwax seems to be hard to find here 
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| Author: | Ghudra [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
Liberon Bistrot Lakk & Ronseal are both available in the UK and have been used for dipping. I understand the "Devlan Mud" wash from GW also works well & I've used homebrew GW wash made of ink+paint+matte medium+water to good effect. I'd just start with a test batch & definitely brush on for 6mm figs. Poly based stains tend to be more viscous than turpentine/oil based ones & you'll need to pay attention to problem spots where dip might hang up. Army Painter has previously stated that they are turpentine based, but I believe that info was removed from their site. 
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| Author: | Mephiston [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
I used the Army Painter spray on my marine infantry and it works fine. Also can't recommend the GW washes enough. They provide really good shading and allow even the weakest painter to achieve results that look pretty good on the tabletop. As to an online store I've used Maelstrom games to get sprays without issues. http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/ |
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| Author: | wargame_insomniac [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army Painter primer and dips |
Warlord Games also sell the Army Painter products if you are buying any historical figures. Cheers James |
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