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Forgeworld Epic Space Marine Vehicles!
tneva82
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:35 pm 
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(Hena @ Feb. 28 2007,14:44)
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They have to cheaper or give some other edge to make it worth it. Otherwise they are just trying to sell stuff that people don't want.

Well. To be honest I WOULD pick their rhino's and land raiders over SG ones if I didn't have bucketloads of those already...FW models are just gourgeous so unless they are noticably more expensive than SG models it's FW models for me if I can get my hands on them!

Still. They should have atleast started epic releases with something more interesting(chaos!).

Here's hoping they will atleast release chaos variants of those in quick order. Would be atleast semi-decent justification for this...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:49 pm 
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Yep, that's my point ... why make something that is already out there ... Rhinos & Raiders are as "vanilla" as you can get.  In the SM1 Game - you got (plastic) 32 Rhinos & 16 Raiders and you could get metal versions of both then ! They continued to make more versions of the same things for years.   If F/W, sees these "doppelgangers" of two of the most  produced models in Epic, don't sell as they wished/hoped. And decide not to do much Epic.  They would be getting a false/corrupted  reading !   Now if they did Necrons, Chaos AFVs, a DoK Gorgon, etc., etc. we'd all reach for our VISAs !  They should make a protocal ... if there are 3-5 versions of something out there ... they don't need to make it !  And I've bought 98% of everything F/W made for Epic (not counting the new AI aircraft, but I'll be buying them sooner or later!) ... So I know the deal.  E&C, maybe you should send this post to Tony C. and the boyz ! :D

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(Legion 4 @ Feb. 28 2007,12:49)
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If F/W, sees these "doppelgangers" of two of the most ?produced models in Epic, don't sell as they wished/hoped. And decide not to do much Epic. ?They would be getting a false/corrupted ?reading !

Good point.

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some for the points that have been put up have been intersting, so i think, even if they sell alot of the space marine vehicles i don't think it will convience them to do more epic, i think the thing that may make them take a look at doing another Epic army is how much Tau and aeronautica imperialis stuff they sell and how much money the ranges make them.

this may be stating the obverse but i think if we are going to get them to do more epic we need to make sure that we show them that if they do more stuff it will sell and they will make a good profit for any new Epic armys they do.

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I really think they need to do some chaos vehicles. I feel the stumbling block with epic stuff is resin infantry. This is not the case with Chaos they have the plastics. I would be perfectly willing to buy resin tanks to go with cheap plastic infantry.

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Well, regardless, I'll probably buy a pack of each ... But will buy beaucoup DRM, E/W and the first MoFo that makes 6mm Hammers Slammers !   :D

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:19 pm 
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(Legion 4 @ Feb. 28 2007,12:49)
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why make something that is already out there ...

As ratty said, they had to sculpt them for the thunderhawk transporter.

So put it this way:

They've made (probably beautiful) resin rhinos and land raiders already. Would you rather they DIDN'T release them?
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They've made (probably beautiful) resin rhinos and land raiders already. Would you rather they DIDN'T release them?

If it means that something more useful gets sacrificed, yes I would rather they didn't release them.

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(Dwarf Supreme @ Mar. 01 2007,16:25)
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They've made (probably beautiful) resin rhinos and land raiders already. Would you rather they DIDN'T release them?

If it means that something more useful gets sacrificed, yes I would rather they didn't release them.

/signed.

Not the first time we saw pics from finished models which never came on the market

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(Dwarf Supreme @ Mar. 01 2007,11:25)
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If it means that something more useful gets sacrificed, yes I would rather they didn't release them.

Why would something more useful get sacrificed? They've already made the models for the Transporter. Believe me, I'd be delerious with more Epic models from Forgeworld, and I probably won't be buying these rhinos or land raiders - if I was going to buy anything it would be for my Grey Knights, and there are already Epic GK LRs!

But I'd rather they released the rhino and LR models than just chuck 'em away. I might go for them in the future. What harm does it do?
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(Lord Inquisitor @ Mar. 01 2007,11:58)
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If it means that something more useful gets sacrificed, yes I would rather they didn't release them.

Why would something more useful get sacrificed? They've already made the models for the Transporter. Believe me, I'd be delerious with more Epic models from Forgeworld, and I probably won't be buying these rhinos or land raiders - if I was going to buy anything it would be for my Grey Knights, and there are already Epic GK LRs!

But I'd rather they released the rhino and LR models than just chuck 'em away. I might go for them in the future. What harm does it do?

Sorry, I should have been clearer. What I should have said was: if the release of new Rhinos and LRs means some other future project gets shelved, then no, I don't want them released. I'd rather FW put resources into something more useful. I have tons of Rhinos and LRs already. I don't need/want more and I'm not the type of gamer that needs to have at least one of each incarantion of a mini.

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I realise, but I would think that releasing something you've already got masters for wouldn't affect future releases much. And it is a good thing that Forgeworld are still thinking Epic!
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(Lord Inquisitor @ Mar. 01 2007,18:39)
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I realise, but I would think that releasing something you've already got masters for wouldn't affect future releases much. And it is a good thing that Forgeworld are still thinking Epic!

But OTOH time spent designing the masters in a first place could have been spent more productively with say...Chaos models? Defilers would be nice. Or obliterators(as it is chaos has no official AA model except helltalon fighter bomber...Rather expensive AA...)

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But they were making the masters for the Thunderhawk Transporter! Since they decided to make the T-transporter with cargo, they needed to make up the masters for the rhino and LR to go with that - that's my point, they've already made the masters as part of the transporter project. Personally I think it's cool that they've bothered to make them seperate so they can release it.
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(Lord Inquisitor @ Mar. 01 2007,18:56)
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But they were making the masters for the Thunderhawk Transporter! Since they decided to make the T-transporter with cargo, they needed to make up the masters for the rhino and LR to go with that - that's my point, they've already made the masters as part of the transporter project. Personally I think it's cool that they've bothered to make them seperate so they can release it.

And what's the uberneed for land raiders and rhino's as part of the transporter...Just create the thunderhawk transporter and create some more NEEDED models rather than land raider mark CVII or rhino MIII.

Heaven forbid if they use these as indicator of wether there's any demand for epic models(probably do. GW upper hierarchy probably demands it. Don't sell enough, GW can shut down FW's epic model production for good saying "there just isn't demand" and no more epic models).

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