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Challenge Primarch

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:38 am 
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Hi!

Oh, by the way, how much of a difference IS there between net epic and Epic A points?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:00 am 
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Add 8,600 of Orks from me.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:16 pm 
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Ok, I make our total now around about 400,000 pts + what Krooza's stuff adds upto.

I think we may beat you Primarch!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:09 pm 
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I don't know what mine comes to in NetEpic. If someone will total it up for, the list is as follows...

Titan Legion

1 Imperator
3 Warlords
10 Paladin Knights

Space Marines

3 Thunderhawks
9 Land Speeders
3 Vindicators
4 Dreads
5 Attack Bikes
15 Bikes
12 Whirlwinds
20 Land Raiders
8 Terminators
8 Scouts
Predator Company
4 Tactical Companies
1 Battle Company
1 Devastator Company
5 each of separate Chaplins/Medics/Librarians
10 Veteran Marines (1st company power armour)

Guard (and Imperial Navy)

3 Marauder Bombers
3 Thunderbolt Fighters
1 Leman Russ Tank Company
3 Vanquisher tanks
3 Siege Tanks (Thunderers)
6 Hydra Flak
3 Manticores
1 Artillery Company
3 Basilisks
6 Deathstrikes Missle
6 Stormblade SHTs
3 Stormhammer SHTs
2 Shadowsword SHTs
1 Baneblade SHT
2 Heavy Infantry Companies
4 Tactical Infantry Companies
20 Sentinels
20 Bikes
12 Ratlings
12 Ogryns
4 Beastmen
4 Assault troopers
10 Commissars
5 Pyskers
10 Stormtroopers
30 Roughriders

Eldar

1 Warlock Titan
1 Tempest
3 Eldar Knights
10 Vypers
16 Jetbikes
3 Guardian Warhosts
10 additional Falcons
6 Vibro Cannons
6 Support weapons (lascannons)
6 Exarchs
10 Dark Reapers
10 Striking Scorpions
10 Dark Reapers
10 Harlequins
10 Banshees
10 Rangers
10 Warpspiders
10 Wraithguard
10 Swooping Hawks

Orks

2 Mega Gargants
1 Great Gargant
1 Mekboy Gargant
12 Stompers
1 Goff Clan
2 Bad Moon Clans
1 Snakebite Clan
1 Evil Sunz Clan
1 Deathskullz Clan
1 Kult of Speed
10 Ork Dreads
6 Fighta Bombers [+12 Ork BFG ships I use as proxies]
10 Ork Big Guns
20 Gunwagons (battle tanks/bonebreakas/bonecrunchas)
12 Battlewagons
9 Mekboy Dragstas
6 Pulsa Rokkits
15 Traktor Cannons
1 Skullhamma Battle Fortress
5 Wartraks
3 Squiggoths
4 Wildboys
4 Madboys
6 Lungbusta Tanks
1 Weirdboy Tower
20 Stormboys
10 Gretchin
10 Warbikes
10 Boarboys

Tyranid

1 Hierodule Bio-Titan
1 Hierophant Bio-Titan
1 Dominatrix
12 Lictors
40 Termagents
20 Gargoyles
20 Genestealers
20 Homagaunts
10 Tyranid Warriors

Hopefully that's pretty much accurate, sorry about spelling mistakes etc. Would take a dedicated Primarch challenger to point that lot from scratch :) Everything listed is a complete unit, one bike = two models = one stand or one Devastator = 5 models = one stand. Nothing is repeated, e.g the Basilisks listed are in addition to those in the artillery company. All troops have any required transports, e.g Space Marines' and their Rhinos. Might have some Ork Flakwagons/Tyranid bio-tanks and Eldar stuff incoming. Longer term purchases will be SM Hunters/IG Valkeries/Vultures/Ork Dethcoptas/IG Hellhounds + Ork & Space Marine Landers.

And I've got lots more non Epic GW bits. I'm an addict (if not quite in Primarch's league) :)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:57 pm 
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I have 9 Epic Armies - but will stay neutral, as Primarch is a fellow Master of the Fleet ! :;):

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:59 pm 
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If we don't win I'll blame you L4.... }:)  :angry:  }:)  :angry:  }:)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:02 pm 
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Hi!

Us "master's of the fleet" must stick together.... }:)

It will be a REAL challenge if everyone else can get together more than what L4 and I have....

But I'll be fair, and let my stuff stand on its own, its more entertaining that way.  :;):

Out of curiosity L4, how many points do you have?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:08 pm 
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Well Chris as an American, I'm use to being blamed for many things !  :laugh:   And Primarch, most of my forces are painted, however some are still a work in progress, based on modified SM1 stats, total points would be around 15,000 - 20,000 ...   :blush:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:24 pm 
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Hi!

How did you modify the points?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:23 am 
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Some of the armies and units didn't exist in SM1, so we had to adapt ... and continue to do so ... :;):

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:20 pm 
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Hi!

So you still use the the original point structure with estimates for new units? I never figured a formula for AT, did you?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:39 pm 
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Yes, we generally use the SM1 points, with an occasional modification.  We played with a formula, but it proved to be more trouble than it was worth.  So basically with SM1 as a guide, we interpolate the data.  But as I said there were no 'Nids, Tau etc., in SM1 and SM2 brought out new models, like Chaos Engines, Thunderhawks, etc. so it is a "living" process ... and we are flexible ...  :;):

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Hi!

I ended doing something similar with Heresy, since a formal points system never can be fully fullproof. I just use it to make a standard to which I measure all other units and place their price accordingly to performance in a game.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:35 am 
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Well you have to be logical and flexible ... :;):

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:31 am 
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..and flexible, sometimes games design and mechanics aren't very logical. But if they work, they work.  :)

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