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I was a HUGE 40k 2nd player back in the day and sold all my stuff to a gaming store. They proceeded to take my painted minis and turn around and sell them for unbelieveble prices, and much to my shock, they sold. 
At any rate, I was out of the hobby for awhile until some friends mentioned that they wanted to give it a try, so we picked up the box set and some minis and began playing with the Dark Eldar and the Space Marines. I was kind of shocked at what I saw in the game. It has a very generic feel to it. I can't explain it.
There may have been too much emphasis on Characters in 2nd ed, but it was still a great skirmish game, which is what it really is.
When they made 40k 3rd, they realized players wanted to be able to play their whole armies, and the previous system really took too long. 3rd edition is quicker for large battles, but playing small ones isn't too gratifying.
There are some things about EpicA I hope keeps into 40k 4th ed, like some kind of crossfire or flanking modifiers. Right now it is basically rush into position (hopefully cover), and just blaze away. I have cover saves too, and would just prefer to have a -1 penalty to hit. Close combat isn't really a fun part of the game either, and to be honest I'd like to see all that revised.
That being said, I do like the scale, and think the minis are excellent. I would like to see some kind of skirmish rules set though, like Mordheim or Necromunda. Having everyone run around within 2 inches of each other is practically shoulder to shoulder, and I find many times the units don't get enough out of cover and still be able to shoot at targets and so forth.
When 4th edition comes, I will most likely just through away my 3rd box set. I feel very little for it. 2nd edition on the other hand, I really enjoyed. I just hope the Tyranid selection in the 4th box set is interesting, and just doesn't come with genestealers.
Does anyone know if the Space Marines are getting a face lift? Every new edition they have. . . I am happy with the way that they are now, but I can see GW releasing new ones. I just hope they aren't one-piece ones like the WFB Empire and Orcs are.
As for WFB, I have only played it a couple of times and I think it is cool. I think the rulebook is 100% better than the 40k one, but it is just the rank and file that bothers me.
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It is for kids ! But sells amazingly well ! 
Some like checkers ... some like chess ... some like bright shiny things ... 
who likes 40K (bec it CAN be fun, if not particularly authentic) AND WHFB. The latter is better than the former, what with ranks and supporting fortmations and the like; unless you get the larger format of flying daemon in the way, it can be quite good. Nowhere as good as Warmaster, which is terrific, but better in my opine than 40K. And the plastic regiments have made life easier - they're not cheap, but they have made a slight improvement in affordability. 
