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Author:  fairoaks024 [ Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:27 pm ]
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I notice there is no scale board for 20mm figures?

I have several armies building up now in a few periods due to the huge range and low cost of modern 1/72 plastics.

anyone else share the love?


regards

jim
Author:  wargame_insomniac [ Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:31 pm ]
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How does the quality compare to the new 28mm plastics being released by the likes of Perry Minatures, Warlord Games and (eventually) Wargames Factory?

The Perry's ACW infantry had 36 for UK£12. Their Napoleonics will be 42 figures for about UK£15. Warlord Games Romans were 30 for UK£17 (although you can pick them up for £15 on ebay). So you are talking 2-3 figures per pound.

That takes away one of the big advantages of 20mm plastics- their cheap price.

Cheers

James
Author:  Markconz [ Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:35 pm ]
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Yes I have loads of the 20mm plastics (and no time to paint them). They are great,

Will be interesting to see how they do compared to the new 28mm ones.
Author:  fairoaks024 [ Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:16 pm ]
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most 1/72 plastics work out at around 8-10p each, so still significantly cheaper than the new 28mm plastics, although i would agree the new plastics from the perrys and warlord etc are very, very nice.

i think a lot of my soft spot for 20mm plastics stems from my age, and starting out in wargaming when the only real option was airfix or nothing.

painted up and based for the most common 25mm base sizes, 20mms do look rather good though! and they are also quite a bit quicker to paint.

effectively i find they combine the speed of painting of 15's with almost the looks
and presence of 25/28mms.

regards

jim
Author:  Reaver [ Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:27 pm ]
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The main problems with 1/72s is the quality - soft plastic doesn't hold detail as well as the hard stuff, the moulds degrade faster so later castings get worse quality (buy when the range is first released), they don't take paint as well as hard plastic, and they can also disentegrate over the years! Seriously, many people with collections from the 60s and 70s have found figures going brittle and turning to powder...

The other problem for me is if I want to do bigger scale gaming, I buy 28mm. If I want big battles, I buy 6 / 10mm. For me, 1/72 is neither one thing or the other.

That said, there are a lot of 1/72 gamers out there. The Miniatures Page has boards dedicated to it, and there's a pretty active Yahoo! group too.

Regards,
Reaver
Author:  CyberShadow [ Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:11 pm ]
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Good point! Board created, and this is now the first post!  :D
Author:  fairoaks024 [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:29 pm ]
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thanks very much cybershadow,

cool! I will have to take some piccies and figure out how to post them up of my armies,

regards

jim
Author:  wargame_insomniac [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:11 am ]
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Hi Jim

Look forward to seeing photos. Especially as I missed out seeing them in person as you finished painting them just after I ahd left London to move to Yorkshire.

Cheers

James
Author:  Justiniel [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:11 am ]
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Seems I'm a member of this gang too, like you I started with airfix and have a reasonably large collection gathering dust in the attic, large portions unpainted  :sad: Mostly WW2 stuff but a handful of Nappies too.

Also am looking forward to seeing your armies.
Author:  Nicodemus [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:34 am ]
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I have 1:72 WWII Afrika Korps! And I am going to get some latewar germans too. I play with them using Blitzkrieg Commander rules. I think great about 1:72 is that it has the cheapnes of 6mm combined with detail of 1:35 (in vehicles) and dirt cheap infantry.

Army for late war Germans in BKC: Box of Panthers (2), box of Tigers (2), 2 box of infantry, that is like 34€, so 52 $ or 26£.

I have thought of buying Mongooses WWII rules too someday.
Author:  fairoaks024 [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:21 pm ]
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hi James,

they are indeed the ones i was working on when you were at Legion.

the celts are pretty much finished except for a few stands of cavalry which are currently unpainted.

with the romans i have one or two painted stands for each unit, backed up with several stands waiting for the brush.

the problem i have is that i'm currently painting up several 20mm plastic forces for DBA, HotT and the ACW, so my efforts are spread fairly thinly at the Mo'.

regards

jim
Author:  ortron [ Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:41 am ]
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I know this thread has been dead for some time but has anyone used the CWC rules in 20mm?

A friend and i have collections (1960s+) that we are planning on gaming with but until now real life has always conspired against us. Hopefully in the next 1-2 months we might get a game in.

I'd be keen to know what people think of CWC anyhow, but especially at this scale.
Author:  The_Real_Chris [ Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:58 am ]
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This scale is king if you want to find that hard to locate AFV/ But yes the 'airfix' plastics are poor. But there are other 20mm plastics out there, plus metals. Personally I hate the way wargames diverges from 'traditional scales, it makes things needlessly hard.

I mean if Epic was N (or even z) gauge it would make assembling the battlefield a damn sight easier and companies that operate in common scales do i beleive a lot more business with little effort (unless you wish to conquere the world like GW with an odd figure scale).

Hell when I'm a bilionair and own epic I'm making it N (or maybe z) gauge!
Author:  vanvlak [ Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:13 am ]
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I am no fan of flexi-plastics, but Zvezda's historicals appear to be a different story. I picked up a boxed set of 44 Samurai infantry (which I've already gushed about elsewhere :vD ) and the detail is remarkable - so much so I'm too frightened to paint them! And they're not bendy.
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