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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 5:02 am 
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Wow !  Great work as usual T/S !!!   And Tas, "Fascinating !"   :;):

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 9:46 am 
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Nice conversion and modelling, but from a technical POV why 4 sets of tracks?

"Curious"... :laugh:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:21 pm 
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Quote (Tas @ 08 2004 Feb.,08:46)
Nice conversion and modelling, but from a technical POV why 4 sets of tracks?

"Curious"... :laugh:

All the modelling and converting on the tank is Krooza's work - so I dont know the "technical" reason - but it doesnt half look cool......  :cool:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:05 pm 
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Tank looks great :D
Nice to see it finaly painted after collecting dust for so long :;):

As for the tecnical side of things... its all done for looks :D

I have another Leman Russ Im converting into a Looted Ork BattleWagon... that has even wider tracks :oo

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:33 pm 
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Quote (kr00za @ 08 2004 Feb.,15:05)
As for the tecnical side of things... its all done for looks :D

Not quite, Krooza - you're right in applying wide tracks, if you want to reduce the track pressure over ground. Could help prevent damage to roads you'd not want to  have to rebuild, for example. This was done by the Germans in WWII, for example, to Panzer VI (Tiger) tanks, with extra width track sections being fitted to the standard tracks to distribute the load over a larger area.

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That is correct ... but you are an Enginseer, V. !    :;):   The US even put "extenders" on M-4 Shermans for the same reason.  And a wider track adds to cross country mobility too.  Works like Snow shoes ... :D   I was a Mech Grunt as well as ABN & AAsslt ! :)

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Quote (Legion 4 @ 08 2004 Feb.,17:31)
I was a Mech Grunt

Ah! The elite forces! Ad. Mech rules! :D

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We liked to think so ... but so did we as Abn & Asslt troops ! :;):

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Well Ive finished the basic construstion on my Battlewagon tracks. These ones are scratch built to make them more orky. Theyve taken me most of the day to make. The Nut n Bolts are made by dicing up a hexigon shaped plasic dowl and added slices of a round shape dowl.
These tracks are 30mm wide... should be able to drive this baby on a deep shag-pile carpet n not leave a mark now :D

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Hi!

Wow! You've been real busy lately. Really enjoy the pics!

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As I understand it, the Germans were copying what they had observed in the T34.

The wider track sections reduced ground pressure as you say, particulalry for use in snow and on boggy ground.

My comment was more why there was 4 sets of independant tracks when 2 wider ones would really be better for the vehicle- for looks? then hey cool! Its does look good!

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The tank is supost to have 2 extra wide sets of tracks, which was sone simply by glueing a seconded set along side the origanals. Its not supost to be a 4 track set-up. Its was just far easier to make them like that, other oppions would have been to sorce some wider tracks from a different model or scratch build completely new ones. Scatch building new ones seemed like too much work and buying another model too costly. As I had a spare set of Leman Russ tracks I just used them :;):

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The Panther was created in direct response to the T-34.

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From what Ive read on the subject which isnt much I beleive the the T34 wasnt only a kick-arse tank but also a very simple cheap design, this ment thry could be mass produced as an incredable rate, this coupled with the fact of all the major countries involved in WW2 Russia's armourment builders were some of them most hard working, deadicated people around ment that the production of the T34 was a massive opporation.
The Germans main mistake was to try to improve on the T34 design instead of just copying it.
Although on many point the German Tiger and Panther better than the T34, they were of a much more complecated design and impossable to produce on the same scale. The Tiger being a very good example of this, this tank was arguably the best tank ever prodruced during WW2, but its complecated design ment it entered service far too late and in too few numbers to make any difference.

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That is generally correct.  When the Germans first ran into the T-34 they had a hard time dealing with it.  Both the USSR and the US literally out-produced the Germans, their designs (T-34 and M-4 Sherman) were simpler and easier to produce.  The Panther, Tiger I & II, were pretty hard to beat one-on-one.  But the Allies could lose 4 tanks to kill one German tank.   Couple that with air superiority ... and the rest is history !!! :;):

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