Mantic has been working on their own 12mm-ish scale game with Alessio Cavatore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBJ2Etg0BUo

https://www.manticgames.com/news/warpath-needs-you/ -- rules can be downloaded here.

Love to see where this could go. What a shame about the timing.

Very interesting - I'll be voting that they continue it, as you can never have too few games at this scale!

Agreed about the timing. I wonder, if Legions Imperialis turns out to be a bloated stinker of a ruleset, perhaps the new Warpath ones might offer a nice and clean alternative?

Warpath would benefit from focussing on aliens as Legions Imperialis is about humans, loyal against traitor .

Warpath universe has way fewer races playable than 40k.

* Asterians
* Enforcers
* Forge Fathers
* GCPS
* Marauders
* Mazon Labs
* Plague
* Veer-myn

They didn't state the size of the models at all. Just mentioned it to be Epic scale and showed a couple of models, so I don't see where the 12mm-ish assumption comes from.

In either case, I'd prefer them to come up with a totally different ruleset instead of doing an evolution of Epic SM2/TL. The D8 idea is fine, the command points idea is nice as well, but reading through the rules I still see a turn structure that doesn't look interesting, tbh.

I have read a few conflicting comments on what the scale will be, so perhaps need some more news or a confirmation in that regard.

Also Warpath does have fewer playable alien races, but we have had it confirmed (several times) that the new Legions Imperialis will be Heresy-only (no aliens) so at least it might present a good alternative, even if only 3 or 4 of them get released.