You see, I don't find a like feature a compelling solution, because that gives people even less of an incentive to post anything, as you just end up with people being even more lazy, and clicking a button. Also, it's very frustrating to me as a reader, because I don't know why someone agreed with the post, or whether they just clicked like because the person is their friend. It's a bit like karma, in that it's too easily abused.

Even just writing one line in response is better than +1. I don't think that I'm being overly harsh by asking people to just write more than +1 or QFT. Is it really so difficult to write more than this?

Wellspring: It's not the case that such posts are taking over the forum, but my concern is that if they're unregulated there is a danger that they might start to become more prevalent, as people may believe that if experienced posters are doing it all the time, then they can emulate them.

I agree that traffic is not as high as it is on some forums, and that moderation needs to be less strict the lower the traffic, and indeed I've cut back on moderating certain things for traffic related reasons where I moderate. This forum, I think, is actually seeing a slight rise in contributions since GW culled specialist games though, at least that's my perception. I don't know where to find the statistics on a phpbb forum to see if my perception is correct though.

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I'm inclined to agree about the traffic-- I got into the forum after SG was cancelled! I'm a longtime veteran of the SG boards, where traffic is very slow right now.

If low-quality postings become more prevalent, we have plenty of time to tighten up the rules to stop the problem after it has actually manifested. Why institute regulations to solve a problem that we don't actually have yet?

Also, in both advertising and law enforcement, "pulsing" periodic crackdowns when necessary between periods of laxity is more effective than a consistent level of enforcement. So acting now when we don't have this problem will dilute the effect of acting someday if/when we DO.

Remember also Irisado that QFT/+1 are generally not only agreeing with the conclusion, but the reasoning that got there as well. Oftentimes agreement or approval is all the content that is required, regardless of how many words you use to express it.

I wouldn't consider these types of post spammy unless they start getting used excessively or inappropriately by a specific member or group of members.

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I prefer to nip any potential issue in the bud before it becomes an issue. Trying to close the stable door after the horse has bolted causes problems, particularly with back tracking. How far do you apply a rule retroactively?

QFT/+1 do not say why said person agrees with the reasoning Spectrar Ghost, so I maintain that it's just spam posting, that should not be allowed. There is nothing constructive in such responses.

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But saying 'I agree with this person because they make sense' adds nothing over a simple +1/QFT/^this^ type comment... it's just padding with noise and still adding no content.....

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Exactly, kyussin.

If it's not an issue Irisado, how can we moderate it? If it starts to get excessive, we can curb it. Until then it's, well, a non-issue.

To me at least.

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To be frank, I see this as being concerned about an issue that doesn't really exist..... if every thread resembled a youtube comments section or was full of 'WTF LULZ NOOB!' type shorthand then yes I can see, but there are maybe 1-2 responses like this a day on this forum..... it reminds me of a guy at work loudly complaining that due to our new spam filter he was wasting his time deleting upwards of five junk emails a day.....

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As a 6mm manufacturer I really appreciate the +1, like, shut up and take my money, (insert emoticon) posts. They give a good indicator of how much stock I need to order and how much to spend on a products advertising.

People are always willing to write a review, but if I can garner a measure of interest then I can adjust stock levels accordingly.

A good example of this is the Guild Legionnaires MkII. We saw a lot of interest and pushed them right up the production schedule.

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I disagree.

If a post says 'I agree with this because of x, y, and z' it shows me that someone is putting thought into why they agree with a particular point of view, and perhaps even expanding on it.

+1/QFT is of no use at all, because it doesn't explain why the poster thinks the way in which (s)he does, and that's why it is spam. The only time such shorthand is of any use is when voting on rule changes, but that can be done using polls, so again, I cannot find a good reason for allowing this type of posting.

I'm also glad that you raised the subject of You Tube comments, because the fact that we have any comments anywhere resembling You Tube is of concern to me, and that's what the change I'm suggesting would stamp out completely.

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I actually worded it poorly, regarding the youtube comments, I was saying we only get a handful of '+1/QFT' type posts per day, very very rarely do we get anything resembling the dross from youtube

+1/QFT are used as a way of restating a point, oftentimes you're trying to say something, someone comes along and nails it, it's a way to show (with the quote included, hence the post has content) what you were trying to say

If you want a high-content-low-post-count forum, I suggest checking out the something awful site which may be right up your street, however I see the tactical command forum as something different, it's a community, sure we do rules development here, but also it's more lighthearted and conversational in style, threads really flow nicely and read well on this forum and aren't used as places solely to disseminate information.... it's not always required to say why you agree with someone, in many cases it's self evident why you would agree, when you go and vote, are you required to justify your decision to anyone?

it's also a different story on different parts of the site, the modelling and painting forums are full of 'nice work' type posts, I'd rather that someone say 'great job' than not post at all on my paint logs, even if they're just being nice

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If it's self-evident why someone agrees, then no post of any kind is required.

Regarding the painting comments, that's fair enough, and I won't quibble over that. At this point, I'm focusing solely on QFT and +1 posts, nothing more.

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okay so there should be different rules for different board sections? (other than the unspoken rule of comparing E:A to NetEpic anywhere ) how about we leave it up to the mods personal taste? if someone wants to spend their time pruning off 'content free' posts then fair enough, if someone else doesn't equally fine, leave it up to the moderators of the respective sections and let the global mods deal with real spam/arguments/abuse/blatant rulebreaking

I get the reasoning behind it, on a forum with 10x the traffic it could be a problem, but we're just not there (yet??) and I think it's less effort for you and other likeminded individuals to simply ignore posts you disagree with, after all, it's hardly like you're spending ten minutes wading through a post before realising it has no content is it? the fact that the forum has been around for a good while, this is hardly a new problem, and it's only being brought up now is a good indicator of the general mood of the majority of forum users that they are happy with the way things are....

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