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Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:17 pm ]
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The Speed Freeks Army List is up in the vault.

DA SPEEDSTAS IZ BACK!!!

Cheers

Author:  vanvlak [ Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:42 pm ]
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Quote (Warmaster Nice @ 05 2003 Dec.,12:17)
The Speed Freeks Army List is up in the vault.

DA SPEEDSTAS IZ BACK!!!

Cheers

Or, to put it differently,

DA SPEEDSTAS IZ BACK!!!!!!!!!

Huzzah! and they've even got the Landa!!! Double Huzzah!!!! :D ?:laugh: ?:D

Author:  iblisdrax [ Fri Dec 05, 2003 3:57 pm ]
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KOOL.

Author:  nealhunt [ Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:13 pm ]
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Well... They have the Landa, but there's no point in it, really.  Everything on the list can get there by itself REALLY quickly, and the best deployment option (stormboyz) is not on the SF list.

I do think it's a decent list overall, but it could be improved.

Not like that will stop me from playing it...

Author:  vanvlak [ Fri Dec 05, 2003 7:25 pm ]
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Quote (nealhunt @ 05 2003 Dec.,17:13)
Well... They have the Landa, but there's no point in it, really. ?

SACRILEGE!!!
:angry:  :angry:  :angry:
NOT HAVING A LANDA IS INCONCEIVABLE :angry:


They're too much fun! Although (keep this confidential) ..... I agree! It fits in the Speed Konsept, but not in the strategic one perhaps.... then again, it HAS been pointed out Orks are not much good at strategy.

Then again - Speedaz would love the thrill of a fast ride on a flying trukk, wouldn't they? And it would be nice to have a wheeled vehicle assault supported by a troop landing....

ok, can't be rational where the Landa is involved... can't even take a position.... oh bugger, where are my pills... :oo

Author:  nealhunt [ Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:03 pm ]
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On second thought, a landa full of skorchas would be cool.  Even though you can only deploy 5cm, you could get all the skorchas and the landa into FF.  That would be 10 4+ FF for the skorchas, plus whatever the landa has (2 @ 5+?) and 12 units is a decent size for outnumbering.

Stormboyz would still be better, though...

Author:  vanvlak [ Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:12 pm ]
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Quote (nealhunt @ 05 2003 Dec.,19:03)
On second thought, a landa full of skorchas would be cool. ?Even though you can only deploy 5cm, you could get all the skorchas and the landa into FF. ?That would be 10 4+ FF for the skorchas, plus whatever the landa has (2 @ 5+?) and 12 units is a decent size for outnumbering.

Stormboyz would still be better, though...

GREEN IS GOOD AND THUNDABADS ARE GO!!!!!

GO EKLIPS* BOYZ!!!


My Evil Sunz attached to my slowly (very) growing Bad Moonz.  :;):

Author:  primarch [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:52 am ]
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Hi!

Sweet stuff!

Primarch

Author:  CrimsonFury [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:01 pm ]
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Quote (nealhunt @ 05 2003 Dec.,19:03)
On second thought, a landa full of skorchas would be cool. ?Even though you can only deploy 5cm, you could get all the skorchas and the landa into FF. ?That would be 10 4+ FF for the skorchas, plus whatever the landa has (2 @ 5+?) and 12 units is a decent size for outnumbering.

Stormboyz would still be better, though...

Light vehicles take up 2 transport slots (it says so on the landas data sheet), so you could only take 5 skorchas, and they come in formations of 8 :(.

I mentioned the same thing on the playtesting forums. I really prefered the KOS as a formation of 5 units rather than 8. It meant they could fit in landas, And the normal\big\'uge formations size was alot more flexible at 5\10\15 than it is with 8\16\24. (can't ever see myself using a 'uge KOS with 24 models).

BTW, landas have 3DC and FF 4+.

You could fill a landa with a blitzbrigade of 5 deth koptas, but its not that great (5x FF 5+ attacks, you could do better with an ork warband).

I think the speed freak warband needs to have the trukks as an upgrade rather than standard, so they can use landas, battlefortresses or gunfotresses.

Author:  nealhunt [ Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:56 pm ]
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Well, as you can tell, I don't use Landaz a lot...

I'm not nearly as jazzed up about the list as I was, although it is nice to have an alternative.

Jervis has added a bike upgrade for standard Nobz stands and an Outrider bikerz formation (although I think the points are broken).

Author:  CrimsonFury [ Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:18 am ]
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Don't worry, Jervis has increased the points cost of the outriders formations now :)

Author:  Hergrmir [ Sat May 22, 2004 5:16 am ]
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Well, there's a pic of the Revenant up on the SG website, and the 1.0 Ulthw? list is up along with an update for the Black Legion, Feral Orks, and Biel-Tann.

Revenant's pretty strange - looks like a cross between a Dire Avenger, a unit from Evangelion, a bit of Dark Eldar, and some Jedi style posing, with just a hint of the previous Revenant thrown in.

Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Sat May 22, 2004 9:49 am ]
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I think the new Revenant requires some time to getting used to. Looks like a nice detailed model but the pose is just so fundamentally different from the previous versions that it will probablt recieve quite a bit of flaming to begin with.
I think I like it though... :cool:

Cheers! :)

Author:  vanvlak [ Sat May 22, 2004 10:03 am ]
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I like it - but I'd like it better if WH40K didn't exist - in particular, Wraitghuard.

Ok, I'm being unclear : it looks a lot like a WH40k figure used in an Epic game, a bit like an Exarch, or a Wraithguard with a new set of weapons. It's a nice model, but looks a bit out of place: I think it's the head - it looks too WH40K-scale.

Author:  Ork Dreadnought [ Sat May 22, 2004 1:47 pm ]
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I'm going to have to disagree with vanvlak on this one.


I don't think wraithguard at all when I see it, I see "Five Star Stories" the anime and manga epic.

Google it and you'll see what I mean.


Edit

here's a few pics to save everyone the trouble.

http://www.toyspress.co.jp/FSSe/ch_mort ... ha018.html

http://www.toyspress.co.jp/FSSe/ch_mort ... ha011.html


and from escaflowne

http://www.escaflowneonline.com/guymele ... zade.shtml

http://www.escaflowneonline.com/guymelefs/teiring.shtml


These aren't the best matches, but I'd say GW has been watching a lot of anime of late.Not a bad thing mind you.


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