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Mojarn Piett
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 10:04 am 
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I just downloaded the new .pdfs and noticed there are some really nice illustrations in the book. I especially like the executioner on p.86 and the assault marines on p.27 and the crazy grot bike on p.104, which just begs to be converted to name a few.

Now a question to the sneaky gits, er, _proficient playtesters_ who have the book: could you list the names of the artists in there?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 10:24 am 
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AAAAAAAAARRGGGHHHH!!! Mojarn, you almost killed me! I checked the vault and found the NEW ELDAR PDF (check it out if you've not seen it) and saw NO FIREPRISM TROUPE!!!!! By the time my mechadendrites were calling the paramedics one of the brighter ones, VISEb2, realised that falcon squadrons can be upgraded to Fire Prism troupes. RELIEF! Ok, remember that I have no alcons yet and have been converting Fire Prism stand-ins like mad in the Eldar Diary...
I realise more than ever I need to invest in Falcons (and flyers!)
The sedative (qv) has now worn off.... :oo

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Warmaster Nice
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Don't worry Vanvlak. You can trade in the falcons in the troupe  for fireprisms to make an all fireprism falcon troupe. (that sounded kind of weird :oo )

I agree the new illustrations are very nice! I wonder if any of them are in colour in the finished boook?

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Mojarn Piett
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:02 pm 
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Quote (vanvlak @ 20 2004 Jan.,09:24)
AAAAAAAAARRGGGHHHH!!! Mojarn, you almost killed me!

Again? This has become something of a habit for me, it seems.  }:)


I checked the vault and found the NEW ELDAR PDF (check it out if you've not seen it) and saw NO FIREPRISM TROUPE!!!!! By the time my mechadendrites were calling the paramedics one of the brighter ones, VISEb2, realised that falcon squadrons can be upgraded to Fire Prism troupes. RELIEF! Ok, remember that I have no alcons yet and have been converting Fire Prism stand-ins like mad in the Eldar Diary...
I realise more than ever I need to invest in Falcons (and flyers!)


Would you mind if the falcons were of the turretless AT/SM vintage? And just how many would you need?


The sedative (qv) has now worn off.... :oo


Say cheers to your servo arm. Did you know he writes to this board with your username when you are sedated?  :laugh:  :p

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Quote (Mojarn Piett @ 20 2004 Jan.,11:02)
Quote (vanvlak @ 20 2004 Jan.,09:24)
AAAAAAAAARRGGGHHHH!!! Mojarn, you almost killed me!

Again? This has become something of a habit for me, it seems. ?}:)


I checked the vault and found the NEW ELDAR PDF (check it out if you've not seen it) and saw NO FIREPRISM TROUPE!!!!! By the time my mechadendrites were calling the paramedics one of the brighter ones, VISEb2, realised that falcon squadrons can be upgraded to Fire Prism troupes. RELIEF! Ok, remember that I have no alcons yet and have been converting Fire Prism stand-ins like mad in the Eldar Diary...
I realise more than ever I need to invest in Falcons (and flyers!)


Would you mind if the falcons were of the turretless AT/SM vintage? And just how many would you need?


The sedative (qv) has now worn off.... :oo


Say cheers to your servo arm. Did you know he writes to this board with your username when you are sedated? ?:laugh: ?:p

Hi Mojarn,
yes, you're certainly life-threatening.
The falcons I've converted to Firewings or Fireprisms or whatever are the old plastic ones you mention (I think) -  weapons too unlike the 'real' Falcon. Thanks though.

(aside)
Hey - which one of you servo arms was that writing ?!? :angry: Own up now!  :angry:  :angry:

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vanvlak
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Quote (Warmaster Nice @ 20 2004 Jan.,09:57)
Don't worry Vanvlak. You can trade in the falcons in the troupe ?for fireprisms to make an all fireprism falcon troupe. (that sounded kind of weird :oo )

I agree the new illustrations are very nice! I wonder if any of them are in colour in the finished boook?

Cheers!

Thanks Warmaster. In my case it's even worse - a  Firewing FirePrism Falcon troupe! Aaaaagghhh!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:49 am 
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Hi!

Everyone knows, Mojarn is hazardous for your health.

He should have a surgeon general warning in his sig.... :p

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:29 pm 
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Oooh, new Eldar PDF, thanks for posting vanvlak...  :)

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Hi!

Yes, thanks for the link.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:19 am 
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Quote (stormseer @ 21 2004 Jan.,18:29)
Oooh, new Eldar PDF, thanks for posting vanvlak... ?:)

I think I'm turning into a bonesinger....*sigh* ....thank the Machine god for servoarms, mechadendrites et al, if it wern't for those I'd be a Xenos.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:51 pm 
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Okay, what if an infantry unit with no ranged weapons (small arms only), goes into overwatch?  How do you handle it when this detachment gets assaulted?  Do they get a FF Overwatch attack before the enemy gets into base to base?  Or what?  I can't find anything in the rules on this.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:25 pm 
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I would say the units gain nothing. They fight in the assault as normal (no shoot first or anything).

The overwatch rules say "resolve the shooting attacks using the normal rules". The normal shooting rules do not allow FF attacks.

IMO if the formation had no units with ranged weapons at all they shouldn't even be eligable to go on overwatch.
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Yeah, but I would think that they would get Some kind of bonus for being on overwatch, because they were in essence 'waiting' for the assault to take place.  I dont know what that bonus should be, whether a free FF attack or what.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:52 am 
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I agree with Crimson Fury. As the rules stand the unit gains nothing. Its an interesting idea, I don't think anyone brought it up during playtesting.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:43 am 
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SM1 - +1 to hit, on FF ... it may or may not work with E:A ...

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