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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:47 am 
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He guys,

We me and my friend swapped armies for a Epic:Armageddon game.

Well I'm glad I'm the imprial players.  Those pesky Humies have lost of fire power.  It's hard to get into close combat.  

In the end I lost.  It game down to one roll.  If I won the strategy phase two full warbands charge into close combat, , I even had the warboss in position.  If I lose I suffer the sustained of over half the Imperial army.  

Well Guess what happen...  :p

I was hoping the orks would do better they only have two victories in our games of Epic.

I definitely encouraging the use of an Orc lander with a upsized Stormboyz unit.

Any other ideas that work?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:59 am 
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Hi,


we had 6 or 7 games orks against ig and the ig only came out winning once. The following things were quite effective:


1) Fightabommas, typically our Ork player has 2 squadrons a 5 fightabommas. They have  a good chance of disrupting IG artillery batteries or at driving away the rough rider screen of the artillery or tank companies in a single action.

2) Mobile warbands. Battle/Gunfortress plus some battlewagonz or gunwagonz to deliver a warband with some extra nobz, boyz and gretchin.
Using a march action on the first turn you should be able to bring them into charge range in the first turn (deployment 15 on table + 90cm move + 5cm loading out troops = 110cm). The gretchin screen and hiding behind the battlefortress (warengines block los) helps surviving the one or two rounds of punishment, the nobz help removing the blast markers.
My opponent (Mark) typically uses gretchin in the first, then boys and then nobz in the third line to protect the nobz. I typically mix in some nobz in the first and second line to use the save against enemy fire and to increase the chance of getting them into close-combat.
You could add some stormboyz to the mob, with their 30cm move they don't even need a transport vehicle and increase your charge range. Dont forget you can charge the battlefortress into the enemy and push troops aside. You should see that it is in cc as you can then assign the first hits to the battlefortress and hope for the saving throws.

3) Deth-Koptas
good gun (for an ork), skimmer, fast, acceptable saving throw, very disruptive
prefer them very much to gunwagonz


4) Stompa mob with Soopastompa (how whats the exact name):
great firepower but because it is so slow you can usually not really fire before the second or third turn. But this mob usually draws unproportionally high attention from e.g. the leman russ companies and can sustain 3 turns of punishment from one leman russ company (if they stay at range > 60cm, if they don't, they risk a 6 barrage point macro weapon attack).


not effective:
we had a nice looking stormboyz mob with 2 skorchas in almost all ork games, they never did any damage and were killed/broken very early. but at least they drew some attention to themselves

warbands on foot -> simply to slow

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:17 pm 
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I try to give all my Epic forces some sort of transport ... I'm biased when it comes to Mech forces ...   :;):

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:44 am 
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Thanks Guys,

I'll pass it on.  I have a huge respect for fighter bombas. I couldn't believe how effective my Hydras where against ME.

Those bastrads  :p

Just because I shot their commanding officer for cowardice they have a gudge against you.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 6:35 pm 
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Well ... that is a leadership technique ... it worked well for the Russians !  :o

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:08 am 
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I've not really had the chance to plau a lot of EA, but managed to get a couple of games in yesterday (nothing fancy or too big, just approx 1000 points per side) just to try out some of the different rules.



In the first game, Orks versus Space Marines, I got really beaten with virtually nothing left on the table and the Space Marines only lost two Razorbacks!

The second game, we were trying out the artillery rules, Imperial Guard versus Orks (with a few Soopa Guns) and guess what the Orks got beaten again.

It was surprising how effective Imperial Guard were in close combat against Ork vehicles (compared to E40K) and how ineffective Basilisks were (again compared to E40K).

The more I play EA the more I like it.

I like the fact that close combat is really nasty and dangerous.

I like the fact that a supressed unit is ineffective (keeping their heads down).

I actually quite like the generalisation of the Ork units, I could use a variety of models, count them all as gunwagons (or battlewagons) and this made for fast play.

I had fun even though I lost.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:44 am 
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Hi Jimbo, what are the buildings to the lower right of the pic?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:48 am 
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Quote (vanvlak @ 16 2004 April,10:44)
Hi Jimbo, what are the buildings to the lower right of the pic?

They are

close-up shot (sorry slightly out of focus)



by Snapdragon Studio and sadly now OOP.

They made some fantastic 6mm buildings and it's a pity they don't anymore.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:15 pm 
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Nice pics, Jimbo, as usual !  And I like to hear your "take" on E:A, as you are an "old timer" and not a young "pup, still wet behind the ears", when it comes to Epic.  The "young ones" are easily impressed with "bright new stuff" !   :laugh:  :laugh:  :;):

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:40 pm 
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Jimbo and gang,

Snapdragon is a funny company!

I've queried them several times over the years about the old 6mm line and never gotten so much as a reply.

It's annoying, but that's life.

Are any of you willing to try and contact them?

I imagine that they still have the molds!

I wish I'd bought more back when they were on the market!  :angry:

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Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 16 2004 April,16:40)
I wish I'd bought more back when they were on the market!

so do I

so do I

I even wish I could purchase the moulds sometimes...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:53 pm 
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Hi!

Would a large enough order entice them to make some more?

By the way, Jimbo, did you get my PM?

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Thanks Jimbo, they're nice stuff - don't think I'd ever heard of them, and pity they're so irregular.

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Hi!

Not as great as Snapdragon, but good enough for 6mm terrain and buildings:

http://www.mechdepot.com/microtac.htm]

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Hi Guys, There was a guy trading around the wargames shows in the UK as Snapdragon and I believe he sold out to someone else but the company is still going. Don't know if this helps or not, but I have seen Snapdragon at shows in the UK at Bournemouth (STAB) and some of the other shows in the south. Another good company for models is Mainly Military. They have a large chemicals works which is great and an aircraft hanger that looks good, all 1/300.


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