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nealhunt

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:27 pm

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Hey, I know this is an international board, and that the con actually starts tonight, but is anyone going?

If so, I know a couple guys interested in Epic that you might want to look up. Let me know quickly and I can get their contact info.

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CyberShadow

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:07 pm

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Right. Well, I have had this sitting around for a while, but I decided to put together some rules and ideas for campaign/warbands in EpicA (believe it or not, inspired by the recent Path to Glory for Fantasy and the old Rogue Trader/Relm of Chaos books).

Anyway, the rules are here:

Crucible of Champions

I would be really interested in hearing what you guys think about these rules. They are not finished yet, and only the section for creating the warband, champion, retinue and followers are online. The rest will follow. This will include how to fight with the warbands, units which do not survive, new followers, rewards and gifts for the champions and his path to a Daemon Prince or Chaos Spawn - and the subsequent rise of a new champion.

Right now, I would like to hear about:

- Most interestingly for me, I would like to hear about any warbands that you guys roll up and put together. I cant even imagine all the possibilities that are present, so a few 'typical examples' would be great. It is difficult to get this balanced, but also variable! Even if you dont want to play this system, roll up a warband and let me know what you get.

- Any 'power combinations' that are potentially possible given the random tables - although this is less of a problem as the player actually has little control over the results.

- Any thoughts or comments about the system generally. It will obviously be linked to the current Chaos force list, and so could change as this does, but I dont expect the overall rules to change a lot.

Thanks. So, to start off, here is the warband that I rolled as a part of the rules set themselves. Unfortunately, the warband came out quite well, so I will be generating a second one later to illustrate the variation what can be achieved:

Champion and Retinue:
Plyshtarin - Chaos Marine Champion, with the Leader, First Strike and Immune to Panic abilities
Eight Chaos Marine Units
Five Chaos Rhino transports

Alpha Formation:
Six Noise Marine units
Three Slaanesh Rhino transport vehicles
Eight Chaos Marine Dreadnoughts

Beta Formation:
One Chaos Traitor Arch Heretic unit
Eleven Chaos Traitor units
Seven Big Mutants

Gamma Formation:
Five Chaos Marine Bike units

Zero mutation points, and ten advancement points.

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nealhunt

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:18 pm

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I'm eager to see the progression tables for mutations and adding new units, as well as how you intend for casualties to come back over the course of a campaign.

I rolled up 7 or 8 warbands and calculated rough points just for comparison purposes. It seems most come out a bit over a thousand points, mostly the 1100 to 1300 range. The highest one I rolled was about 1600, and the lowest was a bit under 1000.

It seemed as if an awful lot of CSMs forgot to bring their rhinos, though. I'd like to see the die range for that expanded.

Based on the training scenarios I've done, I'd say that's a 30-45 minute game.

It certainly seems as if it would be fun to run a leage/campaign off of it. If I could convince some of my friends, I would probably even give them enough figs to build a warband.

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CyberShadow

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:56 pm

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That is very interetsing, thanks. I am very pleased that the warbands generated end up at a fairly focussed points value, as a 1000 point against a 1600 point game would not be too biased.

As for the issue of transports, I will look at this again. Thanks for your analysis. Are there any details available of a warband or two that you generated?

I will get the next parts of this online as soon as I can. Thanks again.

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nealhunt

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:52 pm

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I posted an updated list in .doc format to the EpicA Yahoo group. ?PG is going to pdf it and post it to the epic_lists group also.

I split the termies into rubric and chosen, added some background and explanatory notes, and generally cleaned it up (proof, edit, etc.).

I am still open to input if anyone has anything they want to comment on. ?And, of course, I'd love to hear any playtest results.

I almost forgot... color scheme for the Storm Lords Titan Legion was initially blue and purple, with white and black checks for accent. The blue was a medium/royal blue and the purple was very light, almost lavender.

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Tas

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:55 pm

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Have you got any pics of a Storm Lords Titan? maybe from an old AT or something? Sounds good!

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stormseer

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:05 pm

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This picture: Storm Lords might prove to be of interest...

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Tas

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:02 am

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Indeed- many thanks!

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primarch

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:29 am

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Hi!

Stormseer is that picture from the old Codex Titanicus? WD? Seems very familiar.

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Legion 4

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:23 am

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Yes, I've seen that pic before ... I think in Codex Titanicus ! IIRC

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darkone26

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:01 am

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I like the pic but I dont remember it....

If its in the titanicus book which I have somewhere, then I really did miss it, good knows how...looks looks really good.

Neal : where did you get the titan colours from? Is there somewhere it states what colours certain titan legions had?

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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:21 pm

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Cool stuff.

Thanks.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

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nealhunt

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:56 pm

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As I worked on this post, it slowly became a minor tour de force of titan links.

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The pic above of the Storm Lords is from Armorcast. They also published a list of all the GW-source titan legions as of Inquisitor 14. That's their pub, not the GW Inquisitor game pub. Since this has come up several times in the past, I've copied it for the forum:

http://www.armorcast.com/inquisitor/archive/number14/

LOYAL TITAN LEGIONS

Legio Canis
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown
Princeps Senioris: Andy Chambers

Legio Crucius
Colors: unknown
Emperor Class Titan Praeco Deictus destroyed vs Chaos on Kado

Deathbolts
Colors: unknown
Forge World: Esteban VII
Grand Master: Thordun Ranxey
Notes: “None Escape Vengeance”

Legio Destructor (Steel Beasts)
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown
Grand Master: Thaedius Wilson
Notes: “Big Death”, largest Titan Legion with over 100 Titans

Legio Honorum
Colors: unknown
Forge World: Stygies VIII
Notes: Replaced Vulcanum I, II

Legio Ignatium (Fire Wasps)
Colors: Black, red, yellow
Forge World: Mars (1 of 3)
Notes: Crusades. Emperor’s Guard, hates Legio Mortis

Imperial Eagles
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown
Notes: “Emperor’s Enemies Beware”

Legio Metallica (Iron Skulls)
Colors: Red with yellow/black or white/black stripes
Forge World: unknown
Princeps Senioris Kurt Mannheim killed on Amegeddon
Notes: Heavy losses on Armegeddon

Morning Stars
Colors: Green, yellow, white
Forge World: unknown

Legio Ordo Sinister
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown
Grand Master: Ferromort
Notes: 12 Emperor class Titans enforce Pax Imperium

Legio Preator
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown
Triplex Phall
Notes: vs Hive Fleet Behemoth (McCragge)

Legio Ultima
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown
Fist with Bolt symbol

Legio Victorum
Colors: Blue, yellow trim
Forge World: unknown

Nova Guard
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown

Warp Runners
Colors: Blue with Flames
Notes: Fought at battle of Tallarn
War Griffons
Colors: Gray, yellow
Forge World: Gryphonne IV

Firebrands
Colors: red, white carapace
Forge World: unknown

Imperial Fists
Colors: blue, some red trim
Forge World: unknown

Imperial Hunters
Colors: pale green, red trim
Forge World: unknown

Cockatrices
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown

TRAITOR TITAN LEGIONS
Tiger Eyes
Colors: unknown
Forge World: unknown

Legio Vulcanum I, II
Colors: unknown
Forge World: Stygies VIII
Notes: Beaten by Eldar into Eye of Terror

Storm Lords
Colors: purple, blue
Forge World: unknown

Legio Mortis (Death’s Heads)
Colors: Black with red trim
Forge World: unknown
Notes: Breached Emperor’s palace during Horus Heresy, now in Eye of
Terror, also fought on Paramar and Tallarn.

Flaming Skulls
Colors: Red to yellow blend, yellow carapace with black/red tiger stripes
Forge World: unknown

Fire Masters
Colors: Black with yellow flames
Forge World: unknown

ELDAR CRAFTWORLD TITAN CLANS
Fir Dinillainn (Protectors Of The Fallen)
Crafworld: Siam Hann
Colors: Imperial Purple (magenta), black
Was originally Fir Lirillyon (Knights Of Purpose)

Fir Farillecassion (Watchers Over Ancient Wrongs)
Crafworld: Beil Tann
Colors: Bone, gunmetal
Was Lirillyon

Fir Iolarion (Eagles Born Of Fire)
Colors: Blue, gold
Craftworld: Lugannath or Iyanden-contradictions on pages 54 and 55 of
the original Codex Titanicus
Warp Gate catastrophy
Fir Lirithion (Hearts Armoured for Battle)
Colors: Green, gold
Craftworld: Iyanden
Anti-war
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Armocast lists the following sources on their site from when they had the GW license:

http://www.armorcast.com/warhammer40k/PaintingTips.html

TITAN PAINT SCHEMES REFERENCE SOURCES
The second edition Titan Legions Codex Titanicus book has color schemes for three Imperial Titan orders (Legio Victorum, Legio Ignatum, Legio Metallica) and two unspecified Eldar Titan clans as well as Goff and Evil Sunz Ork clans.

The first edition Adeptus Titanicus rulebook has color schemes for the Imperial Fire Wasps and traitor Death's Heads Titan orders as well as a useful short article on painting Epic Titans.

The first edition Codex Titanicus book has color schemes for three more Imperial Titan orders (Warp Runners, Morning Stars, War Griffons) and two more traitor orders (Flaming Skulls, Stormlords). Also described and pictured are four Eldar Titan clans.

The old Battle Titans box also has Epic size banners and flags for Imperial Titan orders Fire Brands, Imperial Fists and Imperial Hunters and traitor orders Tiger Eyes, and Fire Masters.

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Scott Shupe's Eye of Terror page (now static) also has a link for heresy era titan banners that could help with logos and color schemes.

http://home.earthlink.net/~sshupe/EPIC/banners.html

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Since Armorcast's listing above, I know GW has added (in Citadel Journal):

http://www2.vigyan.com/ilibrar....Legions

Burning Stars/Suns of Damnation (pre/post heresy names, Tzeentch, no color scheme stated, Princeps Skylok)

Silver Scythes/Festering Death (pre/post heresy, Nurgle, no colors, Princeps Bubonis)

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There is a knight house that fell to Slaanesh during the seige of Terra and which started the Slaanesh knight daemon engines, but there seems to be no additional detail. I did find a "Spawns of Horus" titan legion dedicated to Slaanesh which might tie in, but it was in a home-grown set of rules and I don't know if it was drawn from a GW source or not. It's here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~sshupe/EPIC/ ... itans.html

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Maybe I should just start cataloguing this crap.
:oo

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nealhunt

Post subject: Epic in this months White Dwarf

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:59 pm

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So... um... anyone have a comment on the TSons list?

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Legion 4

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:39 pm

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Just checked my Black Library and that Storm Lords Titan pic is in the front cover of Codex Titanicus ... Great job on the Titan listings Neal ! :;):

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