We're going to keep our Aspects as they are, and modify E-A as we see fit and merge anything we like from E-A to our "hybrid" rules. We're not going to bend to fit G/W, in this case ...
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| Author: | dafrca [ Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:52 pm ] |
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OK, in the new test list I can mix and match the aspects. What combos do you all suggest and why? dafrca |
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| Author: | dafrca [ Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:09 am ] |
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OK, here is what I came up with; Troupe #1: 4 Fire Dragons and 2 Dark Reapers I am using the Dark Reapers as Fire Dragons until the list is fixed. Troupe #2: 6 Striking Scorpions Troupe #3: 6 Warp Spiders What do you guys think? dafrca |
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| Author: | CyberShadow [ Thu Apr 10, 2003 12:12 pm ] |
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I think that in general, formations dedicated to a specific role work best. If you mix Dragons and Reapers, you will be unliekly to use the best of either. Mixing Scorpions and Banshees might work, but I will probably keep formations with one unit. The only big exception to this are the Dire Avengers, I think that these guys will be great if one or two are added to other Aspects, such as Dragons. |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:46 pm ] |
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We're going to keep our Aspects as they are, and modify E-A as we see fit and merge anything we like from E-A to our "hybrid" rules. We're not going to bend to fit G/W, in this case ...
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| Author: | dafrca [ Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:05 pm ] | ||
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Um Legion 4, I'm not talking about bending to anything.  As a new Eldar player I am exploring the various possabilities open to me. I have been given a large number of "aspect stands" with no clear idea how to best use them. Thus I am attempting to see, with the EpicA rules as written at this point, how I might best use them. That is all. Once I deside I will trade/sell off the extra stands I have  dafrca |
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| Author: | CyberShadow [ Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:14 pm ] | ||
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In that case... Aspect warriors are really over-rated. You should not use many at all... In fact, it would probably be better if I took tham all off your hands...
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| Author: | dafrca [ Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:09 pm ] | ||||
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Wow, that is so nice of you... Hay wait a minute All jokes aside, I will post in the trade section once I know what I have extras of dafrca |
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| Author: | signius [ Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:05 pm ] |
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I am in agreement with the Bossman. I think aspects should be kept clean. I like throwing formations of one type of aspects at the enemy. Though, if you are palying a low point game then, this kind of thing may work. I like hawks and banshees. Reapers a cool but, like spiders, most do not have very many. Oh, and by the way. I am intrested in your extras as well. 
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| Author: | dafrca [ Fri Apr 11, 2003 12:17 am ] |
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I was thinking of going with full troupes of the same type. However, I kept thinking maybe I was missing something. So now I will go ahead and make up a few that are all 6 the same then catalog what is left over. dafrca |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:41 am ] |
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I see, I stand corrected. You wanted to merge your Aspects by types that are compatible based on E-A. Well I'm with the others, keep them clean, ie., don't fight them as a mixed detachment. ?Use them to support your Guardians by taking advantage of their "special" abilties. ?Sometimes this may be difficult, but if used correctly, could help out with your mission ... |
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| Author: | dafrca [ Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:19 am ] |
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Great, the vote is clearly for the formation to stay "pure" for the most part. So now I will have to make up a few formations for myself and then organize the rest for trade/sale. Thanks for the advise and opinions people. It is nice to bounce these things off you'all. dafrca |
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:39 pm ] |
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I've thought of a couple combos. ============ Warp spiders/Swooping hawks (probably 2/4). Movement is close enough to stay together. Put the WS out front in an assault. Their FF is only one worse and their CC is the same. If the WS is in base to base, you lose nothing. If not, you lose little. Either way, you gain twice the chance of saving the first couple hits (3+ v 5+). You also have the option of doing a double-move and shoot with the WS. You're not going to do any damage, but you can drop a BM. With the hit and run tactic this might be useful. ==================== Fire Dragons/Dire Avengers. This is going to be about the same as WS/SH. The assault difference is not as good, but the MW range attack of the FD makes damaging someone with a double move and shoot an actual possibility. With the slow speed, I think a double and shoot may be a more likely option. ==================== Depending on the opponent, a Scorpion/Banshee combo could offer advantages. If you are fighting someone with more CC ability (like orks), the HB are going to be more effective in assault because of the first strike. However, you might want a couple Scorpions out front for the better armor save. ================ They aren't superlative reasons, but they might provide a bit of advantage. In pretty much every case, a combo of two detachments would work better. Not just because of numbers, but because you would definitely have enough troops to let each one do its assigned role without being watered down. |
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| Author: | krimsonstarr [ Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:10 am ] |
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Here's some great news in regards to new miniatures! This morning Jervis posted the stats for the following: (1) I. G. Capitol Imperialis (... is an immensely well protected mobile HQ ...) (2) S.M. Drop Ship (Basically a giant drop pod that can carry tanks ...) (3) ORK ASSAULT BOAT (new model ? Orky orbital lander) (4) Colossus (... is a large Imperial Guard orbital lander ...) + a couple of other non-War Engine units for I.G. & Orks. You can read all about here if you're interested: http://www.specialist-games.com/40kuniv...._ID=950 Sounds like fun! "CROSSFIRE" - http://www.nucleus.com/~richdesn/Crossfire/cf.html |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:29 am ] |
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Great News !!! Too bad we'll have to wait months ... or longer to buy'em ! 
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| Author: | MaksimSmelchak [ Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:32 am ] |
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KrimsonStar, Thanks for the post! Shalom, Maksim. |
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