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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:29 pm 
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not a very exciting picture you may think, but this is in fact from one of my first games of Epic Armageddon....

hopefully will have an Epic Armageddon section on Felix's Gaming Pages soon

though soon could be next year or even 2005  ???

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 1:51 pm 
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At least your are painted! My first Armageddon game was documented here:

Epic:A Battle Report

We ran around searching for anything that could be used, in any colours or of any types! :)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:42 pm 
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aahh the unpainted figure syndrome

myself and my friend Simon have an unwritten rule, only painted miniatures allowed on the table (and a slightly more strick unwritten admendment) only well-painted miniatures allowed on the table - therefore the single colour Space Marine Rhino is not allowed

the nearest I have come to breaking the unwritten rules was with a Warhammer 40K battle

If you check out the full report

Warhammer 40K Battle Report

You will see some "nearly" painted Orks


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 9:48 pm 
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Ha! With my speed at painting, I would never get a game in. We have an unwritten rule that we should not use an unpainted piece if we can avoid it, even if it means changing the force. If we have loads of troops, that is what we take before we look at unpainted vehicles. This system works quite well, as it means that we have fairly balance troops painted, but dont go short of a game.

I think that I am still painting up some plastic Marines from 40K (Mk VI), and I have an Eldar Wraithship from Space Fleet and four beetlebacks unconstructed, almost ready for their undercoat!  :o

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:39 am 
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Hi!

I also ascribe to the "play with painted" miniatures philosophy. I even go as far to let people use my stuff if theirs isn't painted yet.

The funny thing is, while I like playing mini-games, I really dislike painting. I know its wierd, but I find it tedious, boring and really tiresome. While I like the resuts of my handi-work, it takes months or years to get into the painting mood.

Matters have been made worse since I found reliable painters for hire. If their was one game related thing I could wish for, it would be to really enjoy painting.

That and the ability to NOT buy more miniatures than I need, but thats another thread.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 12:21 pm 
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well, as i solo game at the moment, its a case of play an be damned if their painted  :) Most are painted to what i call table top standard, some are well painted and a few still shiny silver.

ive played wargames since the early 60s when my gran took me to a wargames do in birmingham, where the gods of wargaming where playing, featherstone, wise and grant. bought my airfix and hinchcliffe figures and a bellona cityscape board and was hooked, never painted a figure for about 10 years but boy did i enjoy the games i had.

i think as long as its not a tournament then why bother if your figures are painted at that moment, ive seen kids reduced to tears at GW stores because someone has said they cant play because its unpainted or not painted properly.

i play then paint, having a coat of paint on my figures doesnt stop me from rolling abysmal dice nor my imperial guard running at the smell of a khorne jugger :(


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:41 pm 
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I understand the desire to have painted figures on the table. However, the way to encourage someone to paint an army is not to ban them from playing until it is done. Rather, if you have someone with an unpainted army, you offer to set aside an hour from your game time each week to help paint their army. Makes it go faster and they are greatful for the help.

Ban someone from playing and you may loose them from the hobby. Help them and you will gain a friend for life.

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I have to say, although many people dislike painting, to me it is really satisfying to finish painting a quality model that you have spent ages on- at the weekend I fially finished painting a Ramillies for a mate (who doesn't really paint), it looked excellent and was really satisfying :) ... We then had a game of BFG, me using it with my Imperial fleet against his Chaos, and I won my second BFG game against him. :laugh:

This then inspired me to finish my Swords, and I'l be doing the rest of my escorts and cruisers over the coming week. :D

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So, Jimbo, is this game going to get a report for your site?

Were there any other pics of the game?

If there is one thing I really really need, its a digital camera.  Of coarse I need a decent computer too.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 5:10 pm 
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alas there will be no game report

I was too busy interpreting the rules to take notes and pics and the vast majority of the pics I took were blurred... ah well maybe next time

a quick overview for this forum perhaps

We too identical forces - didn't bother to look at the Army Lists, basically based it on what came out of the gaming box at the time (and they were all painted).

6 Land Raiders
6 Rhinos each carrying 10 Tactical Marines
3 Vindicators
6 Dreadnoughts

Basically I thrashed Simon, he was left with just a few Vindicators... the new assault rules are very deadly (and I quite like them). I thought the firing process would be longdrawn and complicated, it wasn't. I do like the iniative phase and alternate actions, makes you think on your feet more.

Do I like it more than or less than Epic40K, well I haven't decided...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 12:34 pm 
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I must admit that I have not looked at the Chaos list in the Epic Vault for a while, and I assumed that the Black Legion list was in addition to the Chaos one. But, I just had a look and it replaces the original list!

What happened to the beastmen, the cultists, the Land Transporters and everything else. Why did the Chaos list change so completely and dramatically? I am starting to feel that many of the lists are making/have made radical changes with no real reason for it.

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Hi!

Things like beastmen, minotaurs and trolls seem to have been relegated to fantasy and are being removed from Epic. I don't like the changes much either but it falls into place with GW's trends of late. I think chaos will become like SM with a touch of demons. Boring.

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Chaos is being split into two lists.

The old list had so many formations and units that Jervis broke it into two lists. The first will be the Black Legion list that represents Abbadon's "Black Legion." This list will be more about the Chaos Marines or "SM with a touch of demons" as Primarch put it.

The second will be the "Lost and the Damned" list. It will have more things like the cultists and the daemon engines in it.

Jervis has aslo said by doing this split it will allow him to make some new models for both lists. I do not know if this is a good thing or not as I do not play chaos.

Here is a post where Jervis talks about it:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/40kuniv...._ID=868

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While I agree that the units that make up a CSM list are like "SMs plus demons," they play differently. ?There is a thread on the playtest board about this even as we speak.

Basically, SMs are faster, have independent fire support, and most importantly, They Shall Know No Fear. CSMs have larger formations of combined arms.

It's possible to take nearly identical lists, but it's also possible to take selections that play very differently and cannot be duplicated by the other.

That said, I strongly dislike the current chaos list for its' lack of character. Black Legion/Abaddon sucks rocks. I may even be tempted to write up a Thousand Sons fan list. :L

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:17 pm 
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Any idea when the 'Lost and the Damned' will surface?

I was planning something special based on it and would really like to see it again. I like the idea of a combined arms force, with a little of everything for Chaos.

I was planning two Chaos forces anyway, one Marine heavy and one with a lot of different stuff, so I guess that this suits me. I just wanted the cultist one first! ?:(

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