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| Author: | Dan 1314 [ Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Counter charging from transports |
In a recent game we had a bit of chat with regards to units that are being assulted and are in transports. In that case the ever pleasant Orkyosarus. The question was can the Orkyosarus move 5cm (counter charge) and then the onboard orks get out 5cm (either as 1 their counter charge or 2 their move for getting out a vehicle). As you can imagine this greatly effects how close one wants to get to the nasty close combat orks. Thanks for your thoughts as always. |
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| Author: | Ginger [ Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Counter charging from transports |
Yup, they can. The rule on Disembarking is that it occurs after a move, and countercharging is "a move". In a similar vein, Consolidation, Withdrawal, air-transport approach and Planetfalling are also "moves", so units can embark or disembark as part of them. Note, this is also why units cannot disembark (or 'pop up') to support friends because 'supporting' does not also have some form of movement. |
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| Author: | ffoley [ Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Counter charging from transports |
Hang on. You can overwatch after something moves or after a disembark. But you can't overwatch and kill a t-hawk before the marines disembark. So flying isn't a move. Same with planet fall |
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| Author: | Apocolocyntosis [ Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Counter charging from transports |
ffoley wrote: Hang on. You can overwatch after something moves or after a disembark. But you can't overwatch and kill a t-hawk before the marines disembark Afaik this is correct. It annoys me but landing does not count as a move. |
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| Author: | Ginger [ Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Counter charging from transports |
Effectively you can OW before or after ground transport disembarks, but you can only OW after Air-transport / planetfalling troops have disembarked. The reasoning is that having Deathstrikes on OW to deter marines was considered a bit gamey . . .  See the FAQ on OW in the Tournament pack |
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| Author: | Dave [ Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Counter charging from transports |
That was back when they had "No LOS" instead of "Indirect Fire". |
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| Author: | Ginger [ Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Counter charging from transports |
True, though Shadowswords and other TK / MW weapons can be just as devastating on OW against air-transports . . .
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| Author: | Kyrt [ Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Counter charging from transports |
I would be happy to see fewer thawk termies TBH |
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