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| Author: | Commander Sims [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Training scenario - Ork alternative armies, support needed |
So I've been looking at the training scenarios from the rule book and wanted to include the Orks as the Beta force to make the games a little less one dimensional. I've pulled together some army lists for the scenarios. As I've not played the game before I'm not sure if the match-ups are fair/compatible, so I would like the more experience players to give it a once-over and critique them for me. Scenario 1: Basic training Imperial 2 x Tactical Marine Detachments, 6 stands each. Orks 2 x Regular Warband, 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz and 2 Grotz each. Scenario 2: Fast attack training As above plus Imperial 2 x 3 Rhino detachment. Orks 2 x 4 Battlewagons Scenario 3: Armoured training Imperial 2 x Predator Destructor Detachments, 4 tanks each. Orks 2 x Regular Mechboy Stompamobs, 3 Stompas each. Scenario 4: Advanced training Imperial 2 x Tactical Marine Detachments, 6 stands each, plus Rhinos. 1 x Devastator Marine Detachment, 4 stands, plus Rhinos. 1 x Assault Marine Detachment, 4 stands. Orks 2 x Regular Warband, 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz and 2 Grotz each, plus Battlewagons and 8 Dreadnoughts. 1 Stormboyz Warhorde, 6 Stormboyz stands. Scenario 5: Combined arms training Imperial 2 x Tactical Marine Detachments, 6 stands each, plus Rhinos. 1 x Devastator Marine Detachment, 4 stands, plus Rhinos. 1 x Assault Marine Detachment, 4 stands. 1 x Whirlwind Detachment, 4 tanks Orks 2 x Regular Warband, 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz and 2 Grotz each, plus Battlewagons and 8 Dreadnoughts. 1 Stormboyz Warhorde, 6 Stormboyz stands. Uge Meckboyz Gunzmob, 15 big gunz. Scenario 6: Specialist training Imperial 2 x Tactical Marine Detachments, 6 stands each, plus Rhinos (one with a Commander and the other with a Dreadnought) 1 x Landraider Detachment, 4 tanks. 1 x Landspeeder Detachment, 5 Landspeeders. Orks 2 x Regular Warband, 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz and 2 Grotz each, plus Battlewagons (one with a Warlord and the other with 2 Killa-kans. 1 x Uge Blitz Brigade, 12 Gunwagons. 1 x Big Blitz Brigade, 8 Deth Koptas. Scenario 7: Death from the skies! No change. |
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| Author: | Commander Sims [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Training scenario - Ork alternative armies, support need |
I missed the war engine training scenario lists, but I think these are ok. |
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| Author: | Kapitan Montag [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Training scenario - Ork alternative armies, support need |
This is a really good idea! I like these orky training missions |
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| Author: | Commander Sims [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Training scenario - Ork alternative armies, support need |
Thanks for your input Rastaman, the points differences between the two forces are difficult to balance. I initially thought the same as you for the armoured training, but wasn't sure if all those Gunwaggons would be too many. |
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| Author: | Reedar [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Training scenario - Ork alternative armies, support need |
Commander Sims wrote: Scenario 3: Armoured training Imperial 2 x Predator Destructor Detachments, 4 tanks each. Orks 2 x Regular Mechboy Stompamobs, 3 Stompas each. You might struggle with this one; destructors have very little AT firepower... Change to Pred Annihilators. Maybe use blitz brigades for the Orks too for a more dynamic game (as I think Rasta mentioned) Cheers Reedar |
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| Author: | Commander Sims [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Training scenario - Ork alternative armies, support need |
Reedar wrote: You might struggle with this one; destructors have very little AT firepower... Change to Pred Annihilators. I did initial wonder why Destructors were used for an armoured scenario with no infantry. I can only assume that their AP use comes into use on later scenarios (we're infantry is involved). |
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| Author: | Commander Sims [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Training scenario - Ork alternative armies, support need |
Rastamann wrote: Making these calculations, maybe it doesn't make that much difference 2 stompamobs or 2 blitz brigades, but I think the blitz brigades are neat! You can also have one of each, though you'll be introducing the concept of advanced rules before the specialist training one, which may not be a big deal, since you already do that simply by bringing in the nobz and the grotz. I did wonder about the Nobs/Grots coming in too early, do you think that the Boyz can run alone until the specialist training? |
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| Author: | Commander Sims [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Training scenario - Ork alternative armies, support need |
I wonder if IG may be an easier option? |
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