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Author: | Shadow Hunter [ Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
I dont visit the Epic-Armageddon Playtesters Forum any more, as I don't have the time, and don't like its layout. Anyway, has there been anything said regarding the new Eldar list? ? I have finally got round to getting it printed off so I could go over it. Some points I have to query are: - 1 - How is the Avatar and COTYK supposed to be based? ? Is it the Avatar and 1 exarch stand? Or are they all together? ? Would this unit not get blown away instantly? - 2 - What's the deal with the Guardians and platform? ? 7 figures plus a platform per stand? ? That would be large. - 3 - Why do jet bikes not have an armour save? ? They are one of the toughest units in an Eldar 40K army (T4 3+ save). It seems odd they dont have any save at all now. - 4 - Why are Warp Spiders armour 3+? It?seems odd. - 5 - What happened to the Cobra's ability to shoot through void and power fields? ? And how did it get its' huge range? - 6 - Does the Phoenix Bomber have 2 Eldar missile launchers? (1 under each wing as per 40K) - 7 - Why are the Phoenix and Vampires the same cost? - 8 - Where is the Distort cannon for the Phantom? If these have already been addressed in the Vault I apologise, and would anyone please point me in the right direction? Ta, |
Author: | nealhunt [ Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
>> 1-How is the Avatar and COTYK supposed to be based? ?Is it the Avatar and 1 exarch stand? ?Or are they all together? ?Would this unit not get blown away instantly? |
Author: | MaksimSmelchak [ Wed Jun 25, 2003 4:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
Shadow-Hunter, I don't get out to the E-A Forums that much now either. - 2 - What's the deal with the Guardians and platform? ? 7 figures plus a platform per stand? ? That would be large. |
Author: | Shadow Hunter [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
Thanks so far guys. I've heard of these Warmaster bases, but never seen any. I might have to lay my hands on some. I do have some more questions: A- Why does only the Phoenix get an invulnerable save? B- A Vampire can transport 6 Wraith guard. How do you do that, when they come in 4's and have ?either Wraith Lords or Wave Serpents with them? C- Do Harlequins lose their save when tranfered to jetbikes? D- How do you include the support weapon platform Vibro Cannon? The Guardian stands already have a scatter laser. |
Author: | nealhunt [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
>> A- Why does only the Phoenix get an invulnerable save? |
Author: | Shadow Hunter [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
Ooops, yep, you're quite right regarding the support platform. I missread it. About the flyers, in 40K they all have the save (as a matter of interest, the super heavy tanks have them too). They are very useful too. My Scorpion survived a massive game unhurt with very lucky 4+ rolls. |
Author: | dafrca [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:20 pm ] | ||
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I plan to make a test stand just to see how bad it is. However, I will say, I do not like the idea of a stand that large. Unless I *love* the way it looks, I'll be opting for the five to a stand format. Dafrca |
Author: | dafrca [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:24 pm ] | ||
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Same old song from Jervis. Blah, blah, blah, limited miniature range, blah blah blah, Section 8, blah, blah, blah. - Neal. |
Author: | nealhunt [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
New list due out soon. Jervis sent the file to be put up, but it was at the end of the day, so it might be tomorrow. Some neat additions were announced. Mycetic spores will allow additional spawning ability. Immobile synapse nodes that can support swarms and spawn. A larger version of the harridan that can transport tyrants and gaunts. |
Author: | MaksimSmelchak [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 6:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
Neal, Thanks for the update. Without you, I'd be behind the times. My only request is that you include a hyperlink. It makes it SOOOO much easier to access. Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. |
Author: | krimsonstarr [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 6:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
Here's the link to the "Vault!" http://www.specialist-games.com/epic40k ... secure.asp However, the file has not yet been uploaded, but like Neal said we will probably have to wait until tomorrow ![]() "CROSSFIRE" - http://www.nucleus.com/~richdesn/Crossfire/cf.html |
Author: | stormseer [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
I saw on the Vault forums that the Eldar list was heading for more of a Biel-tan feel instead of Ulthwe (grr)... Can anyone give me some more dtails on this....? ![]() |
Author: | nealhunt [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
Sure. Biel Tan is more of a generic Eldar craftworld, for lack of a better term. ?Given that the initial setting is intended to be Armageddon, they are the ones most likely to be involved in an Ork/Human confrontation, and they are closer to Armageddon geographically. Those factors versus the specialized psyker/anti-chaos/Eye-of-Terror-skirting bent of Ulthwe makes them a beetter choice for the first, vanilla Eldar list. As far as flavor changes to the army list, they were minor. 1) Avatar gained Court of the Young Kings, so he/they are tougher. 2) The Farseer Council was removed as a formation. 3) Access to aspect warrior choices was increased. There have been other list changes since then, but they were mechanics/playtest driven rather than background driven. Nothing exciting, imho, though I did like the increased access to aspects. |
Author: | dafrca [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
I have found when Jervis says he has sent it to be posted it takes about 24 hours to show up. Just my observations... dafrca |
Author: | krimsonstarr [ Fri Jun 27, 2003 3:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Eldar list (10.3) |
The new list is up! ?While I haven't had time to have a close read through it yet, there are a few new "bugs" starting to crop up in the list ![]() ![]() "CROSSFIRE" - http://www.nucleus.com/~richdesn/Crossfire/cf.html |
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