I've been searching thru my files in a vain attempt to find the wording for the Expendable special rule that, for instance, summoned daemons have. Could anyone please point me to the right definition?

Thanks in advance (o:

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That's because it doesn't exist....it's been talked about for ages and is basically the rules that grots get. Daemons are subtly different in that they count as casualties in combat resolution.

To me it belongs in lists that need it, not as a universal rule.

Both demons and gaunts are getting the rule, so maybe it should be a universal rule if NetEA ever gets a set of special rules.

You could do it the way Warmachine does stuff like that - the unit notes all contain the full rules, but also a name for it. Like "Notes: Expendable - the formation does not gain a blast marker when this unit is eliminated". Then the summaries can just state "expendable" and NetEA grots get two rules - Expendable and Really Expendable - this unit does not count for Assault resolution.

Do Marines need it? Eldar? Lost and Damned? Tau?

And Daemons and Grots, while similar, are subtly different. I really think its best added as a special rule to lists that need such things.

Could always add it as a special rule. But there will be 3 different armies that use it when the nids get done, and I think it would be a good thing if they were defined to be the same rule (instead of having 3 rules that attempt to do the same but with subtle differences).

Grots should still keep the extra bonus of not counting in assaults, but that would be in addition to the normal expendable benefits.

That would be fine if the rules on the GW site were editable...they aren't.

For me 90% of the lists should have access to a rule to make it special. So scout is in, expendable isn't.

It's NOT the same as the grot rule; Expendable units DO count for combat resolution.

Currently there are slightly different versions in several lists. One thing the netERC should do once they're up and running again is come up with a standardised version.

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NetEA rules will be in their own book which CAN be edited. Grots wouldn't work any differently than they do now, it would just have a clearer wording so it's easier to see how grots/gaunts/daemons behave the same and how they differ.

Zombo: That's my point. Grots should have Expendable AND the do not count for CR rule, for clarity. Technically two rules where they now have one, but the effect would be the same and it would hopefully be easier to compare them to gaunts and daemons.

The plan at this point is to have it in Epic Xenos as a generic special rule like Self Planetfall was in Raiders.

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Alright; thank you (o:

I take it Expendable is something along the lines of 'Formations containing these units do not gain blast markers if they get destroyed by shooting, but still do if they die in an assault' ?

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They don't gain blast markers even when they die in an assault, but Expendables DO count as casualties for combat resolution, unlike Grots.

Right; thanks (o:

What happens if I fire a weapon with disruption at a mixed unit of demons and marines? Say there's 4 hits, three on demons and one on a marine unit; how many blast markers do they get? 1 or 4?

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Ahyes, coming under fire. Thanks for the clarification (o:

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