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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar  Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 6:01 pm |
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Hi,
If you could have any models you wanted, for a 3k game... what what you field as a Genestealer Cult commander versus an attacking Eldar force?
The game is tomorrow, miniatures are not a problem, I have plenty just need help desciding what to take!
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 03, 2003 3:40 pm |
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 1:01 pm |
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This is also probably a little late, but anyway... I have a feeling that Genestealers are going to have a tough time against the Eldar. You need to get in close and use concentrated firepower to wipe out as many as possibly before the run away.
If I understand the question, you are looking for units for the Commander formation. I would think that Hybrids wont be as useful as Purestrain, so I would upgrade a fair few stands. I would also add a few Psychers for the ranged attacks. Transports will also probably be very useful.
Good luck, and I look forward to hearing about it.
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 4:44 pm |
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Yes, that was my point, too. A G/S Cult, like their 'Nid cousins, real strenght lie in their C/C abilities. The Eldar can "hit & run", so you're going have to hit them at long range as they close in on you. In our SM1 based G/S Cult we can have some IG vehicles as well as a Chaos "artifact weapon" (I showed this on an earlier post), and our Hybrids have heavy weapons, so we can get shots in, and then let the Genestealers do the close in work ... By now though, Tom, you probably played the game, so yes tell, us how you whipped those "pointy-eared Vulcan want-a-bees" ... 
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 3:01 pm |
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I've been reading various threads how people base their IG heavy weapons and now my question is: how are you basing your IG Heavy Weapon stands?
- SM 1rst and 2nd Edition Codex Grey used square stands with a heavy weapon guy in the middle.
- Epic-40k (3rd Edition) used 2 new plastic Valhallan IG autocannons with two loaders and an extra figure on a rectangular stand.
- Epic-40k never did show plastic IG Catachan Heavy stands to my knowledge. I wonder if they'd set up the Catachan Bazooka guys the same way as Valhallan autocannons.
- E-A's rules are set up to let us use our old figures and are pretty flexible.
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How are you basing Codex Grey Heavies?
How are you basing newer Catachan and Valhallan plastic Heavies?
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I must confess that I've been using my Codex Grey IG for a LONG TIME and haven't yet built any of the newer plastic IG (was saving them for a rainy day) until yesterday. I started building some of the Catachans as Armageddon Hive Gangers and the Valhallans as Steel Legion.
So far, I'm basing IG Heavies on square stands with one gunner, a loader and an extra figure in the old artillary style (2 figures as gunners and the artillary piece in the center spot of the square stand).
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 3:45 pm |
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I am going to use some bases from GZG. They have irregular shaped based, with three or four places for troops, and they are textured. Pretty cool.
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 3:54 pm |
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Old Guard/ SM1&2 =
1 Hvy Wpn, placed on square base in front left, right or middle hole. ?I have 3 dets. so each has the Hvy Wpn in the same place. ?
Vals/ E40K =
2 Hvy Wpns on long base with loader to left or right of gun. ?I could be wrong, but I just looked, that "Bazooka" - Missile Launcher is a Val with winter hat and long Great Coat? ?
So all my Cats are Light/ Tactical stands. Except 4 stands which I put a GZG fig, that looks like a Cat, and those are my Gaunts Ghost det. and are Hvy Wpns. ?
Back to Vals, I have 2 dets, one is Ldr-H/W-Ldr-H/W-Ldr, and the other is : H/W-Ldr-Bazooka-Ldr-H/W.
My Val Tactical det. has 4 troops + 1 Bazooka. That's the way I do it, and I feel it delineates Tac units from Hvy Wpns and dets from each other .... 
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 4:08 pm |
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Legion-4,
Which GZG figure did you use?
Shabbat Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.
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Legion 4
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 4:18 pm |
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Japanese Corp. Merc troop, he has a bandana wrapped around his head and appears to be carrying a heavy weapon.
Those GZG troops are intriguing, there are a dozen or so types and if G/W does not come up with some new Infantry, that I like, I'll paint them up and use them for PDF, Stormtroops etc. ?
I'll also send you a site that has them all painted and based ... very cool... ? 
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 5:06 pm |
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Hi!
I also base them like Legion4 does, one heavy weapon mondel and 4 tactical IG old codex grey. I usually put the heavy weapon in the middle whole.
As for the newer ones, I will place one of those large heavy weapons with one or two additional figures and leave them at that.
GZG, pan african troops make excellent PDF or militia style IG troops as well.
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 6:02 pm |
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I'm going to base my Epic40k style ones with an auto cannon and loader on the outer edges and a missile launcher in the middle. I guess I could always swap them around, add some variety.
Cheers
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 10:01 pm |
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I'm waiting to see the new Epic:A models first- I will probabaly make some up in sandbagged emplacement style, and some based a couple to a strip, with their loaders..... 
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 11:51 am |
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Posted this somewhere else.
DIAGONAL square base, 2 autocannons at the front, 2 loaders 'flanking, and every 4th stand, has a comms trooper.
Looks the business and the 'diagonal' lets everyone notice them on the table!
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:32 pm |
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Have we actually seen any photo teasers of the new E-A heavy weapon stands?
I remember hearing that they'll probably be on a round base with sandbags molded on.
Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.
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Post subject: Help! Genestealer Cult vs Eldar Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 4:01 am |
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Yes Maksim,
Jervis stated that somewhere. I remember that because I really did not like the idea and commented on it here on the Forum.
Who knows if that concept was scrapped with the plastic sprues being back on the menu?! ? ?
The only pics I've seen for E-A is the Rhino MKIIc, Chaos Dreads, Landspeeders and Chaos Bikes. Did I miss anything? ?
I don't think they are trying to keep it a secret. They probably have not finalized a lot of the models. E-A's release is still 6-7 months off and a lot can change in that time.
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But without knowing exactly what you have, let me say what we used to say in the Infantry, "There is no substitute for Fire Power !" And based on what I see in the news, the "Grunts" still feel that way ... 