Hi everyone!

Since the specialist-games forums are already down   , i try to find help here!

My question is about transport aircraft, and picking up troops. (Space Marine Thunderhawk to be precise)
In the rulebook it says that you can land with an aircraft and disembark any troops on board etc. [i'm not giving the exact quote here...].
But it also states the following: "...alternatively, a landing aircraft can pick up a formation, provided all the bases are within 5cm of the aircraft..."

So does this mean that i just need the activation of the Thunderhawk and land to pick up a unit? Because i always thought i have to land the aircraft, and then activate the unit i want to transport, and use the activation to "move" on board the ship.

For example: i could use my bikes for an assault, then consolidate them all together at one place, and at a later time of the turn i can land my thunderhawk there and get the bikes on board?
Works like that?

thanks for helping,
Markus

In the example given, could the Thunderhawk move in, land, take the bikes on board, then exit in the end phase? (All just using its own move, not the bike's)

But the Thunderhawk would have to be empty, though, right? If any units disembark from a transport aircraft in the turn it lands, it can't pick up and disengage in the End Phase, can it?

So, in theory, how do you think this would play out in a single turn:

THUNDERHAWK 1 (TH1) is carrying two Assault formations.
THUNDERHAWK 2 (TH2) is empty.

1. TH1 takes an Air Assault activation and lands 14cm from an enemy formation. Its Assault troops disembark into base-to-base contact with the enemy formation. The Assault is resolved. Let's assume the Assault troops win. They get a consolidation move? and arrange themselves for embarcation.

2. TH2 takse an Advance activation and lands within 5cm of the Assault troops. They Assault troops embark.

3. In the End Phase, TH2 disengages and leaves the board.

Is my thinking sound?

I've done this... Once.  Tried to do it several times.  It isn't as easy as it sounds but it was fun when I got it to work!

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I try to do it with terminators.
Turn 1
Teleport, fight.
Try to survive till end of turn.
Land thawk and pick up.
Turn 2
Use re-roll to activate t hwak, air assault.

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Just a technicality, the Thawk doesn't necessarily have to be empty, just have enough slots that it can load the troops.  You might have a stand or two already loaded from a previous turn or something.

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Neal

Neal, if the T-Hawk had 4 units loaded and ready to drop off and 4 to pick up, it still couldn't do both though, correct?  Just to clarify, the T-Hawk has to choose to load or unload only, correct?

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HI!

Thanks for all the answers!
This just made the Thunderhawk so much better in my opinon.

cheers,
Markus

Yep.  You get one "free" embark or disembark per landing, not both.

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