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Titans stepping over 'units'...?

Markconz

Post subject: Titans stepping over 'units'...?

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:36 pm

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Situation came up today with a new player. Being a bit rusty myself, I left it until after the game, but now I'm still a bit confused by the wording with Titans stepping over units. Situation can be seen here:

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/cgi-bin....d231301

...Phantom wants to engage heirophant in CC. To do this it must take a direct line and step over a couple of the nexus swarm units (which are 2cm wide) on the end of the formation. At the time to keep the game moving I said yeah just do it and I'll clarify it later. Reading over rules now I believe it shouldn't be able to do this because of the ZOC wording (1.7.3), but then again - the Titan 'stepping over things' rule just says 'units' in addition to impassable and dangerous terrain... should it say 'friendly units'? Is there ever a situation you can step over enemy units? The bit about how it can step over impassable or dangerous terrain also makes it seem somewhat more ambiguous.

So anyway playing that it could step over 'units' as opposed to just 'friendly units' the phantom promply proceeds to...

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Markconz

Post subject: Titans stepping over 'units'...?

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:18 pm

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Hmm but why could you step over them if they were intermingled? Don't you have to move to contact? (Not counting that it could potentially barge - but rather can it step over and past units to get to other units?).

Re retreats - yes understood about that cheers.

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Soren

Post subject: Titans stepping over 'units'...?

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:27 pm

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Step over only if you can ignore ZoC. else you would break the ZoC rules, which is neighter stated nor wanted.

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nealhunt

Post subject: Titans stepping over 'units'...?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:43 pm

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I think it's been said. Titans can technically step over any unit. ZoC rules, however, will prevent stepping over enemy units in most situations - basically everything except a withdrawal move.

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Chroma

Post subject: Titans stepping over 'units'...?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:07 pm

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(Hena @ Nov. 26 2007,18:48)

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One thing though. What would happen with a titan using stepping over and having Infiltrate? Could it then engage over (so that it moves through a blocking formation withtout engaging it) the enemy formations? I don't think such a beast exists, but ...

I believe infiltrator only allows you to ignore the Zones of Control of units in the formation you're assaulting.

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