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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:51 pm 
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Question 1
A ork Stompamob formation with a Supa Stompa

1.Can the Supa Stompa be fired at seperatly?

2. if the Supa Stompa takes 3 At hits do they all go to the Supa Stompa? only one then to the next Stompa?

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(maimed @ Sep. 25 2007,17:51)
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Question 1
A ork Stompamob formation with a Supa Stompa

1.Can the Supa Stompa be fired at seperatly?

An opponent can choose to fire at either war engine or non-war engine targets in a "mixed" formation.

3.2.1 Allocating Hits To War Engines
Normally, you may only allocate one hit to a unit in a
formation until all units in the formation have been
allocated one hit each. This doesn?t apply to war engines.
Instead, the defender allocates a number of hits equal to
the war engine?s starting damage capacity before he
allocates any hits to other units.

If a formation includes both war engines and non-war
engine units then an attacker must state whether any
attacks he makes on the formation will be directed at the
war engines or the other units in the formation. Attacks
directed at the war engines can only be allocated against
war engines if they hit, while attacks directed at other
units may not be allocated to the war engines in the
formation.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:23 pm 
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Hm? I thought only TK attacks can "snipe" at Warengines?

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Hm? I thought only TK attacks can "snipe" at Warengines?

Nope, you've always been able to "pick out" war engines, but then all your hits go onto them, even if you "overkill".

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an attacker must state whether any
attacks he makes on the formation will be directed at the
war engines or the other units in the formation


Any attacks can be allocated. So if i have 5 AT-weapons i can say that i allocate 3 shots at the WE and 2 shots at other AT-targets and THEn i rollfor hits.

So noone is forced to alocate ALL shots to the WE in the mixed formation or to all non-WEs in the mixed formation.

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(BlackLegion @ Sep. 25 2007,20:10)
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Any attacks can be allocated. So if i have 5 AT-weapons i can say that i allocate 3 shots at the WE and 2 shots at other AT-targets and THEn i rollfor hits.

We've always played it like firing at a formation with mixed in/out of cover, either you're firing one way or the other with a formation, not individual weapons, but I don't know if that's actually the rules for targeting a war engine.

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Well i interpret the quoted rules in this way. The state "any" not "all" hits.




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(BlackLegion @ Sep. 25 2007,20:18)
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Well i interpret the quoted rules in this way. The state "any" not "all" hits.

Well, it's not talking about "hits" there, but "attacks", but it certainly isn't clear if that's an inclusive "any" or an exclusive "any"...

I wonder if we can hear from Neal about this.

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thanks for your help mates

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(BlackLegion @ Sep. 25 2007,20:10)
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Any attacks can be allocated. So if i have 5 AT-weapons i can say that i allocate 3 shots at the WE and 2 shots at other AT-targets and THEn i rollfor hits.

So noone is forced to alocate ALL shots to the WE in the mixed formation or to all non-WEs in the mixed formation.

This is the correct interpretation.

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(Chroma @ Sep. 25 2007,20:15)
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(BlackLegion @ Sep. 25 2007,20:10)
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Any attacks can be allocated. So if i have 5 AT-weapons i can say that i allocate 3 shots at the WE and 2 shots at other AT-targets and THEn i rollfor hits.

We've always played it like firing at a formation with mixed in/out of cover, either you're firing one way or the other with a formation, not individual weapons, but I don't know if that's actually the rules for targeting a war engine.

I've always thought the most direct parallel to the WE targetting rules is the choice of fire type for AP/AT weapons.  In that case, the choice is by each weapon according to 1.9.  Targetting in/out of cover is done by formation, but that requirement's listed separately in 1.8.

We've always chosen WE targetting freely.

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(nealhunt @ Sep. 26 2007,14:00)
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We've always chosen WE targetting freely.

Well, we shall implement that in our local group forthwith!

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(Evil and Chaos @ Sep. 25 2007,23:04)
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Any attacks can be allocated. So if i have 5 AT-weapons i can say that i allocate 3 shots at the WE and 2 shots at other AT-targets and THEn i rollfor hits.

So noone is forced to alocate ALL shots to the WE in the mixed formation or to all non-WEs in the mixed formation.

This is the correct interpretation.

thank you mate :)

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