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Could this be an Imperial Dropship?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:11 am 
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Quote (primarch @ 02 2004 Dec.,00:26)
I do blame him for promising more than he could deliver. I'm still waiting for that limited run of plastic beetleback titans.....

He never said they would be plastic.......

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:06 pm 
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Quote (primarch @ 01 2004 Dec.,23:16)

Magnus, you assume that GW actually WANTS to target the older gamer crowd. All evidence and marketing devices point against that. As you point out the core games are mainly targeted to a younger age group. This decision was due to the fact that younger audiences are usually quite fickle and usually have short commitments towards their interests. This is great for GW, becuase they can "turn around" their customer base every so often and sell the SAME stuff all over again to another new customer base of the same age.

Oh, I totally agree with you here: young is good for GW's marketing model, as they can essentially keep re-releasing the same things forever, and be sure they will sell them due to target market turn-over.

What I don't understand is why not pursuing other business models at the same time. Sublicensing SG games would work for them, because this way they aren't going to spend anything (or a very limited amount), and they make MORE money. Since the market segment is different, the impact on core sales would be minimal, I think. If you want to make sure, just avoid selling the sublicensed product in GW stores (so you won't have those annoying old timers around, complaining about GW shadowy practices etc.), don't mention them in White Dwarf, just pretend they don't even exist... while still getting money from them.

Young players buy and play WH40K-WFB, old ones buy and play SG sublicensed games. Where's the problem with this model?
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Where's the problem with this model?


Fluff coherency for one. Either the 40K team validates all the fluff/special vehicles/special rules of the spin-off company (lots of work), or there is a large risk of fork between the "main" fluff (WH40K) and the spin-off (Epic, BFG...)

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Quote (CorwinB @ 02 2004 Dec.,13:14)
Where's the problem with this model?


Fluff coherency for one.

As if GW ever had problems in retconning.... besides, why are they supposed to care? It's not like fluff coherency translates directly into sales. A minimum of cohordination would be all that is needed to avoid truly massive divergence. Apart from that...

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Hi!

Magnus, I beleive there is NO problem with the model per se. Its more of a problem with GW philosophy. As we all know they believe themselves THE HOBBY. Refusing to acknowledge anything else. To lisence and let others produce stuff, even their stuff would be recognizing there is more out there than just GW.

They want complete control and are not willing to share, even if that means not making some extra cash in the short run from lisencing.

Its odd, foolish and dumb, but thats their philosophy and I dont see them changing it soon. :)

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Quote (primarch @ 02 2004 Dec.,13:22)
Hi!

Magnus, I beleive there is NO problem with the model per se. Its more of a problem with GW philosophy. As we all know they believe themselves THE HOBBY.

Agreed, notice that they speak about GW HOBBY and not wargaming hobby these days.  :L

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I agree....they consider it their hobby alone.  We can either take what scraps they want to throw out, or go stick our head in the mud.  They do not care.  :angry:

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Hi, I could not agree with you guys more I have a long love hate relationship with GW as I don't play historical tabletop GW has been about the only thing going elsewise but they are so fickle and agravating that I jumped ship from their main product years ago. I love most of their Specialist Games like Epic and BFG and with the release of Epic A I was really getting reeled back into GWs clutches but here we are again with another nutball decision to shock me back to my senses. All I can really say is its too bad GW feels it has to wreck so much of what it makes. Grim

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:45 pm 
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Hi all, got inspired by the object that started this whole thread, the dropship from Codex Adeptus Titantiucs in 1988. Also been trying to build models for a Look to the Skys Scenario.

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If you want to see a partial log, you can see it here: DROPSHIP POWER POINT

The Scenario LOOK TO THE SKYS!

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That's really cool :-)

You should start a new thread for it, rather than posting to the end of an old one, as it really deserves one!

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Thanks, new post started.

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