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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:38 pm 
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U war/indexNETEA.html
U war/lists/XENOS_tau_Viorla_NETEA.json
A war/lists/XENOS_tau_EpicUK.json
U war/lists/SM_impfists_NETEA.json
A war/lists/XENOS_tau_developmental_NETEA.json
U war/lists/XENOS_tau_NETEA.json
U war/indexEPICUK.html

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 Post subject: Re: Armyforge Update (Online EA Force Creator)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:57 pm 
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Organising NetEA lists. I have some proposals...

1. Leave as-is
2. Have an 'approved' section and 'everything else/'developmental/experimental/other' section (easier to maintain)
3. Have a 'latest compendium' section and a 'everything else/developmental/other' section (more work to maintain, more tournament friendly?)

Any preferences...?

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 Post subject: Re: Armyforge Update (Online EA Force Creator)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:00 pm 
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Leave as-is..... the tau list are an exception in that they have an approved list and a separate develpmental one being tested, if this happens with other lists it's not a big deal to accomodate them as we have done with the tau

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 Post subject: Re: Armyforge Update (Online EA Force Creator)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:02 am 
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Leave as-is..... the tau list are an exception in that they have an approved list and a separate develpmental one being tested, if this happens with other lists it's not a big deal to accomodate them as we have done with the tau

Well, how it works for Tau is exactly how it should work for every approved list... the only difference is it's actually properly versioned, and then labelled as "developmental" whereas most other playtest lists exist in some sort of limbo without a label. Whether you call it developmental/playtest/whatever makes no difference, any Approved army can (and should) have both a stable version - the version in the compendium or tournament pack - and a playtest version.

At present I think Tau is the only playtest version of an approved list represented in armyforge. If there is no impetus to add them then there's no real need to make any changes, but I suppose it could be that no impetus exists because previously it has not been possible ;) It seems there was a reason to do it for Tau after all.

Personally though I don't see why in particular it is necessary to clobber old versions when updating a list - just copy it instead (XENOS_tau_NETEA_6.6.json). The index can just point the default (i.e. the latest stable version) and the interface have a drop-down to allow you to change to whichever version you want. This seems like almost a "might as well" situation. By the way as a bonus, versioning the save links would mean reloading old saved lists could be made to work properly.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:42 am 
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Organising NetEA lists. I have some proposals...

1. Leave as-is
2. Have an 'approved' section and 'everything else/'developmental/experimental/other' section (easier to maintain)
3. Have a 'latest compendium' section and a 'everything else/developmental/other' section (more work to maintain, more tournament friendly?)

Any preferences...?

I like option 2 and I think its the best option for Tournament Players as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:51 am 
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Yes, option 2 sounds good! :-)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:54 am 
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By the way kyuss the 6.6 list spacecraft are protector (not hero) and custodian

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By the way kyuss the 6.6 list spacecraft are protector (not hero) and custodian


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:35 pm 
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I would prefer option 2. It would be much clearer.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:22 am 
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I also vote for option 2, it would just be another button in the "Main Menu". NetEA Dev. and NetEA Appr.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:16 am 
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I would prefer to just have one section, with a drop down in the list builder to select the version of the list. Every list has a sensible default (the most stable one if approved, otherwise the most recent). The added bonus is there's no need to remove older lists.

The reason I prefer this is because, for most armies, there is only one NetEA list, so to split them into separate approved/not approved sections has 2 usability problems:
1. You have to know if a list is approved or not before you click through to the right section
2. Some lists will be in both sections which is confusing

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Confusing? How? If the side indicates that the lists are approved or not i fail to see how that would be confusing?

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Tau will be listed in both the developmental and the approved pages - it's not immediately clear why that is or what the relationship between them is.

There'd be nothing wrong with labelling them, I just don't really see the benefit of splitting them into distinct pages.

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I was thinking one page with following structure...

* NetEA Approved Lists *
Tau
Codex Marines
etc....


* NetEA Development Lists *
Tau v7.777
Codex Marines v2.0
...all the other dev lists...

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Sounds good!

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