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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:20 am |
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Adeptus Mechanicus Legio Ordinatii? Goes off to a happy place......
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:09 pm |
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Going to my G/buddy's hooch tomorrow to check out the Ordinatus stats and see if there is any intell on Ork Dragstas & Speedsta ... Again, I could figure it out " for me self", butz I wantz to seez Wot da Roolz Boyz is tink'n !" 
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primarch
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:18 pm |
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Hi!
As I did with epic 40k, I would urge those who like the epic A rules to make their own netepic style group and "cut the cord" from GW. If you want the game to survive and prosper YOU (the player) need to make it your business to support the version of the game you like.
Dependence on GW is not a good idea. They are a company and will only put resources in what makes them profit. For whatever reason they have decided that epic is not profitable (whether this is true or not is inconsequential, they have made up their minds...), therefore its only a matter of time before the plug is pulled indefinitely.
I see a lot of good work for the epic A lists, but in my view its wasted effort if the players dont separate from GW and run it themselves. The players are certainly capable of it. Yes, its work and yes sometimes design egos will clash, but the final work could guarantee Epic A's existence in the long run. While its under GW's boot, I just dont see it around in any robust form several years from now.
On the netpeic list there is a fond phrase of ours...
..put you money where you mouth is.
Perhaps Epic A players should do just that.
Primarch
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dafrca
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:11 am |
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Although I agree with you 100% Primarch, I must say that because I did not "dislike" NetEpic, maybe I just circle back and relearn Netepic.
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primarch
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:01 pm |
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Hi!
I would really like to see more fan driven version take off. Its nice to have netepic around, but epic would be more robust if say a Netepic A or even a Netepic 40k existed. The amount of ideas and "cross-pollination" would drive each project for a long time.
Primarch
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:47 pm |
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Hi Guys,
I've been really wanting to try out the E-A Playtest AMTL army, but I've been too busy developing the new E-A 'Nid list to get to it yet.
I haven't even got to see the Baran Siegemasters yet.
Eric-Chern usually plays vanilla Space Marines or IG...
Chuck does the same with Eldar ocassionally coming to the party...
And Aaron does the same, although he really likes the new "Nid list...
My local E-A gamers are pretty conventional.
Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak.
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dafrca
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:46 pm |
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I will admit, I like when a company takes the role of R&D for their product. By having a single point of "Officaldom" it helps keep some things in check.
However, having said that, I dislike when a company inists on being the "offical" souce but does not follow through with the responsability that goes with it.
GW has, many times, ignored a game then called foul when the fans take over.
Primarch, you are right, as long as we all join in, the effort is better off with the input.
dafrca
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:14 pm |
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Quote (nealhunt @ 03 2005 June,22:15) | I would greatly prefer separate TL, AM (Ordinati), and Knight Household lists. ?The CI could be put into a new IG list, possibly Cadian for instance. ?I believe that would give a much crisper, cleaner flavor to units that really deserve the full treatment. | Neal
I would rather that this AMTL list is a bit like the 3 lists in the main rulebook- these 3 generic lists for IG/SM/Orks have been followed by more restrictive thematic lists such as Siegemasters, White Scars, KoS/Snakebitez etc.
I would love in the future to see follow up lists (whether official or fan lists) for certain variant Titan Legios/Knight Households.
But I would rather get official playtested stats for each of the main units first. And after the disappointments of SG Support I don't want to gamble that we will get future official playtested lists.
Cheers
James
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:01 am |
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Got the data on Ordinati, CI and Ork Speedstas ... the vault is a good thing ! We went on line at my gaming buddie's hooch and he printed the stuff for me ! And for the record ... I hate Knights ... don't have many, only the ones from TL (and they were converted to Chaos !) 
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:48 pm |
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Quote (primarch @ 05 2005 June,16:01) | I would really like to see more fan driven version take off. Its nice to have netepic around, but epic would be more robust if say a Netepic A or even a Netepic 40k existed. The amount of ideas and "cross-pollination" would drive each project for a long time. | I agree with this up to a point, and would be more than happy to actually lead the charge on this. The only thing that I am worried about is diluting the Epic population. While EpicA still features as part of the SG catalogue, and while the Vault is functioning as a rally point, then I think that a project like this could harm the game. However, if EpicA is ever totally dropped, the web site scrapped and SG disbanded (and two years ago I would not have believed that I would even be talking about this), then I would love to get this off the ground.
I guess that I will keep an eye on progress. I really like EpicA as a game, and it is my favourite version. I have not been tempted to consider this kind of action before.
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:47 pm |
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E:A is the best version IMO, and we will use 85-90% of it, plus some stuff from SM1-2, E40K, etc. ! Good show, Boyz !!
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:12 pm |
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Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 05 2005 June,20:14) | Quote (nealhunt @ 03 2005 June,22:15) | I would greatly prefer separate TL, AM (Ordinati), and Knight Household lists. |
Neal
I would rather that this AMTL list is a bit like the 3 lists in the main rulebook- these 3 generic lists for IG/SM/Orks have been followed by more restrictive thematic lists such as Siegemasters, White Scars, KoS/Snakebitez etc. | I actually see the AM, TL, and Knights as sub-lists. They are all basically like the gargant-focused OGBM, but with Titans, Ordinati or Knights as the focus and IG (Tech Guard) as support. Sure, the tech guard may have slightly different units and organization, but the basics are still going to be very similar to IG.
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primarch
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:43 pm |
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Hi!
CS, I would agree its a watch and wait game at this point. Its always easier to pick up the ball when GW drops it than try to give it a go while they still hold sway.
I recognize there is always that player desire for "officiality" as defined by being "GW sponsored or produced". Heck I would mind if they finally made a fully supported version of epic. But given their current course that not happening. So, I'd keep an eye out, perhaps contact people you favor to form the core "team". Some forethought and planification would not hurt for when the day comes.
Primarch
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dafrca
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Post subject: Good Idea for Tyranid Node Model Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:06 am |
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Quote (primarch @ 06 2005 June,13:43) | So, I'd keep an eye out, perhaps contact people you favor to form the core "team". Some forethought and planification would not hurt for when the day comes. | My Dad always said, "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst."
I think that applies here for sure.
dafrca
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