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Post subject: Ork siege warfare  Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:13 pm |
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First of all I just want to say that I don't want to get into a heated debate as english is not my first language and misunderstandings are bound to happen.
However I still feel rather strongly that Neal and PGs comments were unnescesarily rude. There were absolutely no reason to point out that you particularily disliked TFH's lists -sure you elaborated later on why you didn't like it but this whole issue could have been avoided if you'd simply said which lists you found to be the best and left it at that.
One of the things i really like about this forum is the friendly athmosphere where people give each other constructive feedback on various projects. To simply say that a list (or a paintjob or whatever), which someone has put a lot of effort into is no good, I find extremely rude. At the very least you could have given some constructive critisism. Pointing out what you didn't like about the lists AND THEN given specific examples on different solutions.
As previously noted this is by no means meant to start a flame war -what paople have said is too late to undo now - but for future record I felt that it was improtant to say this. Try to be considerate when commenting on somebody else's work and not just dismiss it as no good.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:52 pm |
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Yeah, we are all buds here, lets keep it this way  . Lets be more like the Waltons (but with better hair, clothing and night life) and less like the Osbournes :S.
Although - Ozzy does some great music...
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:53 pm |
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I share your point of view, Warmaster Nice.
Maybe PG is jealous that I'm doing a Blood Angels list that might be a viable alternative to his one?
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:59 pm |
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| Quote (the_fifth_horseman @ 07 2004 Jan.,15:53) | | I share your point of view, Warmaster Nice. |
As do I, it was well put. But please - lets be nice here  .... go to your happy place people (for me that would probably be the pub)!
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:56 pm |
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| Quote (the_fifth_horseman @ 07 2004 Jan.,07:53) | | Maybe PG is jealous that I'm doing a Blood Angels list that might be a viable alternative to his one? |
Always interested in comments on my BA army list.
There is already a rather long topic about it on the Epic Forum
http://forums.specialist-games.com/epic40k....C_ID=34
and I'd be more than happy to read any comments that you have about it. There have already been some very good responses and I've got some good ideas adn fixes to the list already so if you have some comments please do post them.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:01 pm |
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| Quote (Warmaster Nice @ 07 2004 Jan.,05:13) | | However I still feel rather strongly that Neal and PGs comments were unnescesarily rude. |
Perhaps you are reading some intent into what I've posted here but I'm really just stating an opinion. Not trying to be rude nor do I really think that what I (or Neal for that matter) have posted is untoward or meant in any way other than to extend an opinion.
YMMV of course but I really do think you are reading too much ill-will into these posts.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:30 pm |
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Hi!
Now, now boys. While not my specific forum to moderate, I'll save everyone some grief and ask everyone to calm down.
I will say I found it odd that some strong comments about TFH's lists were made, since all I asked were there any Necron lists and the URL to them.
The arguments of less detail or more detail are the same age old ones that were the crux of the "epic 40k versus Space marine" flame wars of old (I should know, I was in a few of them...  ) and have no right or wrong answer. Its a matter of taste, thats all. No need to get angry over this point. Some like less, other more detail, special rules, etc. in their rules. After almost 15 years dealing with epic in all its forms I have learned that one group will NOT convince the other to its view. So lets be more friendly on this point and leave it at that.
I'm using said lists merely because I dont know enough about necron's to make a list for net epic and such lists for Epic A (fan based or not) will help me know what makes up a Necron army.
The rules, mechanics and all the rest will or course be made up be the net epic list and myself as usual.
While we all disagree what the "best" rules are we all do love playing epic.
Let us remember what we have in common.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:57 pm |
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My apologies if my posts sounded aggressive. As I stated (a couple times), it was not my intention to start any sort of conflict. I simply dislike TFH's lists and stated my reasons. I know from his writing in other venues that he recognizes not everyone will like his lists. Apparently, however, I was too blunt and it came across as rude.
TFH: ?Perhaps I could have phrased my criticism better. When I said "all fluff," I meant that I felt the rules were too background-oriented, not that the lists consisted primarily of background text. In answer to your question, the other UM rule was something about deployment. I don't remember the name off hand.
Also, you may very well have removed the change in WE prices. There are two IA lists out there on the Yahoo groups and they differ considerably.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:59 pm |
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Perhaps you are reading some intent into what I've posted here but I'm really just stating an opinion. Not trying to be rude nor do I really think that what I (or Neal for that matter) have posted is untoward or meant in any way other than to extend an opinion.
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I don't believe anybody had any ill intentions with their posts. Of course everybody is entitled to express their opinion but one should allways try to be as considerate as possible when commenting somebody elses work. It is all to easy to come across much more harsh than originally intended.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:10 pm |
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Gentlemen,
There has definitely been some animated language here, but everything seems to be in hand so, We "moderator sorts," will let everything go for the moment. If things get a little more heated, I'll (or we'll - chatting with the other moderators at the moment) close down the thread for a week or so and reopen it after things have cooled down. So far, so good...
Best regards to all and Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak, Uber-moderator.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:39 pm |
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The "Best" rules are the ones you and your crew agree to use to play Epic or any other game ... and I've been "Epicing" since '90 !
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primarch
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:32 am |
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Hi!
Its all good, even when we disagree, conversations on these boards are pretty tame.
On with your regularly scheduled entertainment.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:51 am |
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Can I ask that any individual antagonisms that arose on "other" boards be kept away from this one? ?You know of whom I speak....
A moment spent re-reading your post before hitting the Send button will ensure that your post reflects what you actually were trying to convey....
...it can also keep the spelling marshal off your back!
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:35 pm |
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...and to bring this thread back on Topic...
I voted for Daemonhunters.
They can have some really nice kit in the 40K Codex (and ForgeWorld stuff) such as Thunderhawks, Valkyries, etc... however as an Inquisitor could in theory access any IG or SM kit they could have BaneBlades and other tanks as well.
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Post subject: Ork siege warfare Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:39 pm |
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@Jimbo - So did I! Plus because it will only require a couple of models it shouldn't take too long to do and could be slotted into the release schedule.
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