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Battle Report (and stories) from the Fulda Gap

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:42 pm 
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I replaced the Magna -cannon with the SM2 Hydra Quad Guns. It's in a Mob with 2 Weirdboy Tower hulls with extra E40K FLAK Guns. :;): Ork "Ad Hoc" Flakwagons !

Now mr. Legion... I'm not threatening you or anything but if you won't get that digicam soon...  }:)  :p

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:06 pm 
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Quote (dysartes @ 18 2005 Mar.,14:15)
Skorchas are going to be based singly (I think) on a Warmaster base, though I need to take a look at this before I decide for definate. I'm tempted to cut Warmaster bases in half (giving two roughly square bases) for War Buggies and War traks, and then base Bikes with 3 to a WM base.

Is n't Warhampster base twice as long as old square Epic bases? In which case you have just found a use for your spare old square Epic bases!

Do you reckon you can get away with bikes 2 to a Warhampster base? Call me cheapskate but the new blisters for warbikes work out horrendously expensive if you only get 5 bases of bikes.

Look forward to seeing pics of your KoS soon. I have put off doing my KoS until I see how yours comes out!! :D

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:08 pm 
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Quote (Legion 4 @ 18 2005 Mar.,14:40)
I replaced the Magna -cannon with the SM2 Hydra Quad Guns. It's in a Mob with 2 Weirdboy Tower hulls with extra E40K FLAK Guns. :;): Ork "Ad Hoc" Flakwagons !

That sounds cool and like all the best ideas might be err appropriated in future.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:32 pm 
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AS I said in the "What are you working on now" thread, I'll post my acquisitions from Triples here.

Space Marine (1st Ed) - missing rulebook, but with all figs, as well as intact (but assembled) Eldar Legion and Ork War Horde boxes and the E:40k rulebooks
1 Ork Braincrusha
3 Bowelburnas
1 Eldar Fire Gale Knight (number 4, which can be seen here)
2 Imperial Warden Knights
1 Space Fleet Dictator-class Battleship (with the grabby claws)
3 assembled E:40k Battlewagons, 3 on sprues
3 Ork War Horde-era Battlewagons
Random bag including 4 Stompas, bikes, wartraks, etc
Some trenches at the right scale for 40k (about a foot or so for ?8)
Some Dragon's Teeth tank traps (same scale)
Slightly less flourescent green static grass

Not a bad day, all things considered.....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:12 pm 
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Sweet!  :)

1 Space Fleet Dictator-class Battleship (with the grabby claws)


Do you have a pic of this, by any chance?  Just curious.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:19 pm 
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Thanks Boyz, I can't make any promises about the camera though ... :{

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:12 pm 
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My Skorchas are based on 3/4" craft sticks cut to 1 1/2" lengths, which is pretty close to a 20x40mm warmaster base.  Given the small superglue joint, I recommend basing them.  The buggies/trakks I have on roughly 20x30mm of the same length.  Ditto for the stompas (20x30), with the heels almost touching the back edge of the base.  One WM base should be plenty stable.

I would also field the MagnaKannon as a Zzap gun or as a Flakwagon.

As to the original question:


>> Big Warband (Goffs) + 3 Nobz + 1 Stormboy + 4 Boyz + 12 Battlewagons (+ Warboss) - 1000

Wow, that's big.  Field it as a Uge mob with the wagons and you can come in at 920 points.  You drop the Stormboyz and one Nobz stand, but if you scrounge up the models, you can add in 2 boyz/grotz for free because you already paid for them.  Or, you can field the exact same models as above, just 10 points cheaper (500 +420 for wagons +70 for stormboyz/nobz).

>> Big Warband (Bad Moons) + 2 Boyz + 4 Big Gunz + 4 Dreadnoughts - 620

I like this.  It's a properly shooty Bad moons mob and you can garrison this monstrosity.

>> Normal Kult O' Speed - 5 Warbikes & 10 Warbuggies + 1 Gunwagon w/ Oddboy - 460
>> Normal Kult O' Speed (9 Skorchas) - 225

I don't understand your mix here.  The first KoS really muddles its role.  It's got some good shootiness (buggies and the oddboy), but then you throw in the bikes which are CC specialists.  Admittedly, bikes shoot fairly well if you get them into 15cm, but I still don't get it.  Is this just paint-job driven?

With this group, my personal mix would be:

KoS - 5 bikes, 9 skorchas, 2 buggies (mostly assault, but a bit of 30cm range for placing BMs and a _lot_ of 15cm range if you want to shoot/support)
KoS - 9 buggies and oddwagon (everything is shooty)

>> Mekboy Stompamob (Goffs) + Stompa - 300

>> Mekboy Gunzmob (Bad Moons) (8 Big Gunz) - 200

You really need Nobz here.  A Gunzmob without Nobz has a very hard time shedding BMs and will spend most of the game suppressed even if your opponent only takes the occasional pot-shot at it.  Also, I would take 2 gunz from the warband to count as big gunz to field a Big mob for just 25 points more.  The big gunz extra range is wasted in the warband, and it works out better here.  It would save you 25 points in the overall army (-50 from the warband, +25 here) and with the points from the Goff warband, you can afford to buy the nobz.

>> Blitz Brigade (Goffs) - 5 Gunwagons - 185*

That's an okay formation, but it will be fragile.  If you can round up enough to take it to 8 gunwagons or 6 and a couple oddwagons, I think you'll get a lot more use out of it.

>> Total: 2990

Like I said above, changing the force org to take advantage of the size discounts will allow you to at least add a nob to a big gunz formation.  As far as actually adding new models oustide of the above, you can drop a few of the semi-random "add-ons" (stormboyz, the +1 unit in the KoS) and use the points to bump the Blitz Brigade to a Big BB.  That would keep you at 7 activations, make your goff mob bigger, and bring your goff wagons up in size to make them tougher.

I wouldn't split the KoS up any smaller than you have it.

>> Interestingly, the above list makes use of none of the Evil Sunz warband, only the Goffs, Bad Moonz and Kult o' Speed.....

Just as an aside, Goff and Evil Sunz paintjobs are usually close enough that it takes little effort to switch one over to the other.  I've done that with some of the eBay stuff I've acquired.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:33 am 
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Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 21 2005 Mar.,14:06)
Do you reckon you can get away with bikes 2 to a Warhampster base? Call me cheapskate but the new blisters for warbikes work out horrendously expensive if you only get 5 bases of bikes.

Yeah sure you can. The rulebook simply says bikes and cavalry should be mounted 2-4 to a base. All my bikes are mounted in pairs to make them go a bit further although I have put them on 20mm square bases.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:47 am 
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Well, this ought to save on my painting time - turns out the Bad Moons are already painted, and to a (reasonable) Epic standard. They need proper basing, but I have one question for people - would you say that the material I was using to base the ToSG Mentor Legion too coarse or does it look OK?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:00 am 
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Quote (iblisdrax @ 21 2005 Mar.,15:12)
Do you have a pic of this, by any chance? ?Just curious.

I haven't, but I know a site that does.

Job for today - finish original 6 vehicles, work on Stompa mob, big gunz (for Bad Moonz), and extra vehicles.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:36 pm 
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Next question - I want to fill the holes in the old square Epic bases for when I put Big Gunz, Bikes, Boarz, War Buggies, etc on them, as otherwise it makes basing them awkward. Is just using Milliput the easiest solution, or can anyone think of a better way?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:44 pm 
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I use plasticine or Blu-tack; cheap and easy to find, and when covered with PVA, paint/flock/superglue etc it is perfectly hard and durable.

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I'm the same, plasticine is a great job (especially when the other half can get it in bulk lots, in various colours) :D :D

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I usually just fill the lot up with PVA and dump loads of pepper, cat litter, flock, static grass or whatever comes to hand. :D

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Quote (vanvlak @ 23 2005 Mar.,12:56)
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Ping!

What a great idea for fine-grain, tasty, epic base texture...

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