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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:16 pm 
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I'll help you out where I can Tas, like I do for Doug.  Hey as long as you guys pay me back, I'm a regular "good samaritan" !  :laugh:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:18 am 
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Hi!

Same here Tas, i have ordered stuff for a lot of our "overseas" members on the net epic list, so any help I can give I'll try my best.

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Quote (darkone26 @ 20 2003 Aug.,15:33)
How did BFG get re-released? I know that that add-on invasion (was it called invasion?) supplement wasnt available til later in the U.K. so I got it from the U.S.

Actually, Gothic was rereleased in the US because it had serious support (compared to other GW non-core games). The rerelease was little more than a title, as the rule books remained mostly unchanged, but it gave the opportunity to publish loads of details and go through the whole game promotion again.

Invasion has never been released here in the UK, and probably never will (although it is being reprinted on the web site and in various parts in WD UK). I also got my copy sent by someone in the US.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 1:48 pm 
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Invasion has never been released here in the UK, and probably never will (although it is being reprinted on the web site and in various parts in WD UK). I also got my copy sent by someone in the US


GW's way of doing things really baffles me. I men how can a company produce something and have the regional divisions virtually "boycott" it?

Strange marketing techniques.... ???

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 2:26 pm 
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Thanks guys, your help is greatly appreciated.  You can be sure that I'll be in touch!  :;):

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:01 pm 
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I've got your current list Tas, as soon as we hit critical mass, I'll call the Trolls! ?:laugh:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 2:48 pm 
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Stormseer:

I stand corrected, the invasion add-on was never released in the U.K. as Cybershadow pointed out.  I sometimes get lost in the purchases from the different countries to obtain certain models.  L4 has helped a lot by ordering for me as its a little cheaper on the phone bill from Germany and if there are any problems they are quickly resolved via L4 who has been very good for me.  Import duties though are unavoidable  :(
Still it doesnt happen all the time.  If they are big orders then its not too bad.  I do get a lot of stuff from the U.K. and if anyone wants a helping hand ordering stuff from the U.K. I can include them in my orders.  Oh FW orders are included.  I will be trying to see if any 'new' epic stuff is available for the GW gamesday U.K


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:12 pm 
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Greetings

This is my first post on these forums so please don't be too harsh.

The last time I played EPIC was over 10 years ago when it was in the guise of Space Marine (second eddition) although I do still have my Adeptus Titanicus (first eddition).

I got back into GW wargaming a couple of years ago primarily WFB and Mordheim but also 40K.  Having been to Gamesday and spent some time at the Fanatic stand I'm quite interested in getting back into EPIC and have started repainting a couple of my old Titans.

My question is this how easy will it to be for me to pick up the new rule book and get playing?  Does it differ much from the eddition I'm used to?  I seem to have missed the last incarnation of EPIC so I know I'll be a little out of date but by how much?

I used to play Squats but I realise that they no longer exist in the 40K universe but will I be able to use them or is it a completely new army for me?  If so I'll probably go for tyranids as that's what I play in 40K and I really like the Forge World Harridan (so much so I bought one)

Sorry for the barrage of questions but I new  :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:56 pm 
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Quote (Vogon @ 23 2003 Sep.,20:12)
This is my first post on these forums so please don't be too harsh.

Hi and welcome to the forums

My question is this how easy will it to be for me to pick up the new rule book and get playing?  

Well the rulebook should be out Feb 2004, but in the meantime you can download the rules from here

http://www.specialist-games.com/epic40k/Vault.htm

Does it differ much from the edition I'm used to?  

Well the first thing to say is that there are plenty of people out there who are still playing SM 2nd Edition and the internet variant, netepic. Epic Armageddon is different, but will have elements of SM in it. The question you should be asking is do I want lots of detail and lots of flavour for every unit in my game, or do you want less detail and a more strategic game.

I seem to have missed the last incarnation of EPIC so I know I'll be a little out of date but by how much?
not much and it isn't going to take much to get up to speed

I used to play Squats but I realise that they no longer exist in the 40K universe but will I be able to use them or is it a completely new army for me?  If so I'll probably go for tyranids as that's what I play in 40K and I really like the Forge World Harridan (so much so I bought one)  
Well you may find a Squat list on the EA Yahoo group and there may be a Demiurg (sp?) list (which will be the new Squats).

Hope that helps

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Welcome to the forum Vogon, enjoy your stay.

Your questions comprise a whole slew of "issues" which you should count yourself lucky not to be biased with.

The third encarnation of epic (epic40k) to put it mildly created a schism amongst epic gamers. The game did not fair well in support from GW and sales wise it was abysmal. Epic went from a core game to out of print for the first time.  It took 7 years for GW to come up with another version of epic after that "debacle".

Needless to say things have changed since you played SM second edition, I suggest you try to pick up Epic 40k (epic third edition) and download the playtest rules for epic A and try them out and come to your own conclusions which you like best.

Support for SM second edition comes in the form of "net epic". Its a fan based variant of second edition for those who favor the older system. It has rules for all the latest epic models not released after SM was discontinued and has a host of rule changes while keeping the same core mechanics. I coordinate that effort so I can answer any questions you have.

The netepic rules, army lists and army cards can be downloaded at: www.netepic.org

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I think you should have no problem picking up E-A rules. And I agree mostly with what both Jimbo & Primarch have said.  Be advised this is a completely new version of Epic and there is much of E-A that I like.  And I have been playing Epic since SM1 in '90, so I, like Jimbo & Primarch, are "old timers" and don't make our comments lightly.  Check it out ... :;):   And welcome aboard ! :D

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Quote (Vogon @ 23 2003 Sep.,20:12)
I used to play Squats but I realise that they no longer exist in the 40K universe but will I be able to use them or is it a completely new army for me? ?If so I'll probably go for tyranids as that's what I play in 40K and I really like the Forge World Harridan (so much so I bought one)

Sorry for the barrage of questions but I new ?:)

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I made a Squat list for E-A a while ago. It is based on the NetEpic Squat list which, in turn, is based on SM2 list. If you want to, you can drop me a PM with your email address included and I'll send it to you. At present it does not include any point values; I am still not familiar of the point value system in E-A. Oh, and it is in "Word" format... }:)

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Vogon,

Welcome to the boards. You've already received advice from some of the best (Jimbo and Primarch among others), but I'll add in what I can as well.

My question is this how easy will it to be for me to pick up the new rule book and get playing?


Very easy. The game has some similarities that should make it familiar. You still will have to learn the new rules, but it's no problem to do so. E-A is the most streamlined rule set yet for 6mm Epic gaming.

Does it differ much from the eddition I'm used to?  


Some, but not too much.

I seem to have missed the last incarnation of EPIC so I know I'll be a little out of date but by how much?

It's not too bad, It's do-able.

Where did you get the name "Vogon" from?

It reminds me of the cult classic film "Krull."

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:14 pm 
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Greetings

Thanks all for the information and advise, I'll be going to have a look at those other websites and have downloaded the rules from the Specialist Games website.

In reply to Maksim Smelchak the name Vogon comes from the Douglas Adams Books The Hitch Hikers guide to the Galaxy and are responsible for the destruction of the earth in the opening chapters.  This is also where my Sig comes from.

To Mojarn Piett I'll send you a PM with my email and thanks.

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Hi! ...Welcome to the boards Vogon, good taste in what you read I see..  :D

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