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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues  Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:23 pm |
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Hi!
You might ask Jervis how long you got to test these changes before it goes to the printers, it may not be a lot of time, but since there are many playtesters perhaps enough opinion can be generated quickly.
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Legion 4
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:24 pm |
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It's the only way to keep Epic around in the G/W lexicon. ?We'll always keep it alive in our dispersed cells, regardless. However, G/W does not need to try to turn a "sow's ear into a silk purse", as the saying goes. ?Take the time to do it right ... And thanks for the decoding, Neal ... we have gown to depend on your translation abilities ... 
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primarch
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:27 pm |
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Hi!
They also need to justify the time and resources with sales, so they can't playtest it indefinitely, I would just caution them to make a lot of changes this late in the game. They seem to have a good system, not perfect, but good.
Its time to test it in the marletplace.
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Shadow Hunter
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:46 pm |
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Just wondering what you guys are going to do with all those extra Ork figures on the sprue that wont now get used for EpicA?
For instance the Shokk attack gun (I know it could be a big gun, but that would look crappy) the Pain boss, the Bigmek (could be put onto the soopa gunz I guess), the Weird boy etc.
Also, what about the other sprues? Are there any obsolete figures on the Imperials and marines? I can't think of any.
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Chris
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:54 pm |
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There are no "obsolete" figures on the IG or Sm sprue, unless you count the Techmarine and Apothcary etc.
I think this has happened with the Orks because much of the Ork armoury has been "streemlined" to make a more managable force. They did end up with LOADS of different vehicles!
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:34 pm |
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Jervis made a list of what counts as what in the Ork army. For example, the Boarboyz are used as Warbikes and so on... You might want to read this list.
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Shadow Hunter
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:51 pm |
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Oh yeah. I've found the list.
painboyz, mekboyz and Runtherd are all Nobz.
shootaboyz and weird boyz are big gunz.
hmmmm.  Maybe I'll just add them into the odd Nobz stand for variety then.
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:48 pm |
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Conversions, conversions, conversions, baby! 
On the Big Gunz, I think the shokk attakks look fine mixed in with hop splats and such.
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:52 pm |
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Wasn't thre talks about "editing" the sprues...so you would get more of the useful plastics (rank & file) and less of the things that never is used (traktor kannon)? Or am I just making things up?
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:04 pm |
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Also weirdboyz are a character upgrade for Feral Orks, so keep them aside if you plan to make a feral Ork army later 
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:09 pm |
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Just because Jervis doesn't include something in the E:A rules, does not mean you have to drop it from your forces ... we are going to use the Medic, Tech, Lib. etc., etc., as in SM2. Come on Guys, don't be such lemmings, blindly following everything that Big Bro Jervis says ... he has always advocated, as I do, to do what works for you and your gaming clan ! He mentioned that in every iteration of Epic ... I read it and think it's a good idea. And don't use that Tournament Rule poo as an excuse ... how often do you play in a Tournament ! Do what works for you !
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:38 pm |
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Legion, I thought thats what people were discussing in this therad, they _are_ using them for what they want to do, just kicking round ideas of what things they would make good models for.
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:44 pm |
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>> Wasn't thre talks about "editing" the sprues...so you would get more of the useful plastics (rank & file) and less of the things that never is used (traktor kannon)?
Yep. We're talking about the old sprues, not the EA versions.
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:49 pm |
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Yes, I guess I didn't make it clear ... I'm all for what you all are talking about. I was just making the point as I always do ... "to do what works for you" ... I can be very redundant ... redundant ... 
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primarch
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Post subject: Obsolete figures on sprues Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:58 am |
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Hi!
Why not just MAKE your own rules for whatever models on the sprue epicA didn't make rules for?
I think it would be fun just trying out to see if your rules creation works.
If there no shokk attack gun rules, make them, I dont think it would be too hard.
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