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Swordwind is out
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:49 pm 
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Field Guns, howitzers, etc. are organized in Artillery Batteries (Infantry in Companies, and Cav in Troops). Field Artillery (FA) comes in 6-8 guns per Battery (Bty). ?We have guns organized in 2 gun sections or 3-4 gun platoons. ?An FA Bty usually supports an Infantry or Tank Bn (600 + Troops or 30-50 AFVs, respectively). ?So in Epic if you have an FA Bty supporting an Infantry or Tank Co. you are lucky (!). ?That is why we always pick/buy FA in Sections or Platoons. ?:;): ?FYI ... :L

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:56 pm 
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Hi!

I agree with L4, I dont like strategy ratings. Placing mechanics that induce a disparity in a game that should be level between forces is not my cup of tea.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:31 am 
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The "strategy rating" should be the ability of the gamers playing.  Not by the army being played, as I said before, there are other ways to show a force's tactical predilections and abilities, and not "saddling" them with being the guy who always get shot at first.     :;):

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:35 am 
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Hmm maybe just leave it to a simple 2d6 roll for each side, no modifiers?

As for the artillery company in a 2700 point game, I agree that any opposing force would find them a very juicy target. While that could have benefits in distraction value, it would probably be better to have a couple of batteries instead of a whole company. :p

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We each just roll a d6 at the beginning of every turn. ?And as I said, an FA Battery (not company), may be too big of an organization for most Epic games. ?And if an FA Bty is deployed, it's platoons would be dispersed anyway. ? Not hub to hub like the way the U.S.S.R. use to do it and present a tempting target for an airstike. ?And yes a couple of Gun Platoons probably would work better ... and generally that's the way we have been doing.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:27 am 
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Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 09 2004 Mar.,23:43)
Is this a problem others have found?

If so then I might struggle to protect 2 SHT Companies AND the Artillery Company. At the moment I have 4 Sentinel squadrons for screening the 2 SHT Companies from being swamped in close combat.

I might then have to think about getting a secong mech.Inf.Company and leave the Artillery Company until I expand the army beyond 2,700 points.

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To really protect an artillery company, you need at least an entire flak battery, and a flak upgrade to the company wouldn't go astray either. Then, you'll probably want some screening troops, so you'll be looking at another 100 points for some sentinels, all the way up to 250 points for an inf coy if you set up on your baseline objective and are worried about defending it. So, it's easy to blow upwards of 1000 points on 1 company that is still a bit fragile no matter what.

In < 4000pt games, I tend to just field an artillery battery or two (or get some bombers if I'm paranoid about thunderhawk assaults). 250 points is still a decent price, and I have the option of manticores, basilisks, or bombards, plus extra activations.

I'd consider upgrading one of the sentinels to rough riders. They're just as effective for screening, but they fare OK if they assault as well, so you might like to retain the option to use them offensively, with the SHTs providing supporting fire. Plus, the first strike ability can help to remove units from CC with your tanks if you're assaulted.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:18 am 
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So no matter what you call it, I think we are talking about the same thing.  Using smaller artillery units (3 guns) instead on one big unit, (9 guns).  And of course with the advent of aircraft in Epic, the paradigm shifted again and ADA/AAA, ie. Flak units had to be brought into the mix/game.  And a powerful FA unit is a perfect target for an airstrike.  So the need for Flak is imperative ...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:55 pm 
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The PDF files for Swordwind have been posted on the E:A website. I suggest to have a look, since depicted in the files there is also a good chunk of the Eldar range to be released next year by GW.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:21 pm 
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Nice! Need to get my hands on that!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:36 pm 
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I haven't read everything, but I like what I've seen so far : lots of fluff detail, very nice layout... Hopefuly there will be more expansions to come.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:31 pm 
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Just too bad that they haven't had the time to shoot pics of all the new models yet.

It's funny though. When looking through the De Aynes gallery I suddenly realized that I like the new style Revenant much better than any of the previous versions. Seeing the neew pics in the book only confirms me in that thought. I gotta get me a couple of those  :cool:

I only skim read the pages so I could be mistaken but haven't they missed the Feral Ork madboyz stats somewhere?

All in all I think it looks awsome. It just makes it so much cooler that it is one of the prizes in the painting comp.

Cheers!  :)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:21 am 
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Submit it as a comment they might have just made a mistake :D.

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Like the very obvious typo in the Siegemasters Siege infantry description?

Gu9ardsmen?

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Gu9ardsmen are like regular Guardmen but with Ogryns stitching on there name badges.

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And the Vampire picture in the Phoenix page....

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