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Jervis Seminar at GT Heat 2 (stolen from Warseer)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:35 pm 
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Amazing where these discussions lead...    :oh: :))

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:16 am 
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So after all the chatter & rhetoic ... we still have no reliable intell on future Epic releases ... if any ...  And Jervis is tall ...  Excellent work ... :no:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:29 am 
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Hey! I got results didn't I!.. Ok, so maybe not the right ones, I admit... but you can't deny we have made some headway.

Now, I suggest we step up this campaign to the next level. We have managed to introduce ourselves... sort of, to Mr Jervis and so long as we haven't caused to much irritation then it may be possable to initiate some sort of contact with a view to, in time infiltrating GW with our forum agents in order to ultimatly take over with a Coup de Main. Now!.. Who's with me?!.

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Quote: (Warhead @ 24 Nov. 2008, 23:29 )

Who's with me?!.

I'll stick to not irritating GW will weird questions...


- What size shoes does Jes Goodwin wear?
- What colour is John Blanche painting with *right now*?
- What is Allessio Calvatore's glasses prescription?
- Which Games Developer is quickest over a 50 metre distance?
- What if they are all blindfolded and must run backwards??

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 Post subject: Jervis Seminar at GT Heat 2 (stolen from Warseer)
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I've just spent the last hour watching Monty Python sketches, thanks Hena.  :))  :agree:

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Seen the latest WD? There is a NEW Blood Bowl miniature in there.

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Quote: (BlackLegion @ 05 Dec. 2008, 13:11 )

Seen the latest WD? There is a NEW Blood Bowl miniature in there.

Yeah that is a good sign from GW.

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You know I’d given up any hope of seeing new epic miniatures from GW (and probably FW too, possible new IA models notwithstanding) and was just praying they’d continue the current level of support so models would still be there when I wanted to expand my collection in future.

This thread has now given me a glimmer of hope there could possibly be new models at some point, thanks E&C for not saying what you said :)

Finally, to persuade the GW bean counters there is a new market for SG models should it be our duty to all buy the new BB model? It could be there partly to test the market and if no one or not many people buy it they might not release other things in future.


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Given GW's seeming perversity at times we are more likely to end up with another BB mini. Good for BB players but not really our objective. Hey, perhaps if we gave in an bought masses of their over priced Epic minis they would see the light and herald the dawning of an new age in Epic... but, I tried that when they brought out E40K and they didn't. So I tend to believe they have no intention now.

This site is the future of Epic IMO. Before I joined, nothing. Now, two almost fully converted armies and more on the horizon and the support of like minded enthusiasts with the tech and know how to have me supplied in enough excellent minis or advice to keep me happy. Sod GW, who needs the heart ache.

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Support from GW in practice sounds good, but I really dont think its needed anymore.

Do we really need to buy their overpriced 6mm? Not really. Ebay and forum trading is enough to handle the demand for the people getting into the game.

If people put an effort into expanding the hobby in their area the game CAN grow at a steady pace.
ie. Play games at a hobby store in the open so people can watch. Play at a GW bunker etc.

Maybe we could get someone on the forum to make a downloadable sheet of business cards for the site that people can hand out to people that seem interested so they know the game is FAR from dead?

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Buy GW or FW mini's if you want them.  If you have the chance to buy them on eBay, just remember those are USED.  I can understand people paying a premium on the FW pieces because they don't want to pay for the shipping, but it makes no sense (if you are in the U.S. or Canada anyway) to spend $38 for used Leman Russ tanks when you can buy new ones for $40 and support the hobby at the same time.

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Hi,
Yes, that is the reason I decided to buy the fighter bombers from FW.
They are not cheap for sure, but look great, and is my minor contribution to let FW know we buy their models.
(actually I bought all my wagonz from them as well, and plan to buy the warhounds).
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Quote: (Moscovian @ 29 Dec. 2008, 16:25 )

Buy GW or FW mini's if you want them.  If you have the chance to buy them on eBay, just remember those are USED.  I can understand people paying a premium on the FW pieces because they don't want to pay for the shipping, but it makes no sense (if you are in the U.S. or Canada anyway) to spend $38 for used Leman Russ tanks when you can buy new ones for $40 and support the hobby at the same time.

On the other hand, if I get 2 plastic Warlords for 20 Euros on eBay instead of one metal Warlord for 40 Euros from GW, I choose the plastic ones (unless I need the metal one for a special conversion).
(btw note that I live in Germany: Higher prices at GW, less supply on eBay if I don't want to buy from other countries)

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I don't really see the mini's being the problem. I see rules and force lists as being it.
We need strict underlaying lists for people to have a starting look at.

Someone will now say something about intentions. And they worked, as long as GW held the rudder. (And moneybag...) And those appointed to stay at the rudder (while JJ got a nap and took off...) are brilliant people, no doubt!
The intentions of having force lists instead of army lists worked, as long as the owner had the last say. Now no one really has that. And we consequently only have the army lists of EA and SW.

Yes, we have a plethora of really good force lists all over the place. But not the staple food of gaming, competitive (balanced) rules. We are playing wargames, not warre-enactment. We need balance. And we might have that, but we don't have credibility. Not the credibility that ensure a new player to spend ~£178 for an "army".

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24 400 Mechanized Company
30 500 Tank Company
30 650 Artillery Company
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-- 100 Ogryn Squad
-- 100 Sniper Squad
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12 350 Stormtrooper Platoon
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I play Imperial Guard, I have always played Imperial Guard. I can't play Imperial Guard in netERC, 'cause there's no such thing here. There's Steel Legion and there's Siege Masters and there's Elysian and there's... But nowhere can I find what ensure me, what gives me surety, to spend upwards (and above!) £200.

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