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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz  Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:55 pm |
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Well I'll be standing by for further updated intell ... 
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:04 pm |
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I am also intrigued by the 'gen stones'.
What was the ratio of Tactical/Heavy/Assault on the E40K sprues? I bet that this will be the same.
Also, what the hell happened to May? My birthday and no releases at all that month. Its a conspiracy, a conspiracy I tell you!
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:05 pm |
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The guys at my GW use bottle caps for blast markers. I think they use it as an excuse to drink lots of beer!
And with the plastic battleforce boxes, unless Jervis releases info on what is in them, I think we will have to wait till them come out!
Cheers
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:36 pm |
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| Quote (CyberShadow @ 13 2003 Nov.,17:04) | | What was the ratio of Tactical/Heavy/Assault on the E40K sprues? I bet that this will be the same. |
Fairly close to 2x of the Epic 40K sprues I think (minus the terminators\bikes\scouts + most characters).
The epic 40K SM sprue had:
29 marines
8 missile launchers
4 Sergents (I assume thats what they are)
10 assault marines
+ 6 characters, 5 scouts, 5 terminators + 4 bikes
Conviently enough, all the tactical\assault\devastator marines are on one half of the sprue (aprart from the missle launchers).
Take all the above except the last line, add 1 more marine and 2 more missle launchers and you have the pefect combo for 6 tactical stands, 2 devastator stands and 2 assault stands. Now put 2 of those sprues in a box and you have your 32 stands (4 tactical formations, 1 dev formation + 1 assault formation. And hopefully a couple of characters).
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:23 am |
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That is what I thought. Second edition just had the 'basic' halves of the sprues, and the colourful halves were added later. So, this represents a move back. I would not be surprised if we see the basic plastic sprues released initially, and these then updated later.
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:53 am |
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Hi!
The original sprues (which were basically 1st edition sprues repackaged) were of two types. A "basic" sprue in a boxed set were all you'd get were tactical marines, guardians or ork boys, depending on the army.
Each army also had a separate boxed set where more specialized troops were found, like termies, assault troops and such for marines, aspect warriors, warlocks and such for eldar, buggies, nobz and such for orks. Only those three armies had such setup. Other armies like chaos, squats, IG and later tyanids had just one sprue type which combined basic and specialized troops.
That selection was changed with epic 40k when the "half sprue" was introduced and "basic" sprues for all except SM disappeared.
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:57 am |
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I dont think I'll be using gems as blast markers. I'll carry on using my old epic40K blast markers and BFG ones when they run out. At least until I make my own.
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:16 pm |
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Evening all, I was flicking throught the rule book ( still learning the rules and trying to decide which of the three starting armies IM gonna start first  )
And whilst looking at the lovely Ork models I was stuck by the fact that I only like the 'look ( Please dont shout ) of the fly boyz and I remember a comic strip with a bunch of orcs who were mainly flyers so ...
Would a force made of 1 warband, Storm boyz, Fighter bombers and Landas be ... fun yet competitive to play  ?
Im not trying to start a flame war and I know I should start at the begining ... but you gotta enjoy yourself .. right?
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:51 pm |
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Provided you stick to the tournament lists (no more than 1/3 of points on aerospace and gargants) go for your life. One of my regular ork opponents has been using 18 fighta bombas (900 points) and just infantry in 3000 point games. It's quite a challenge to face. He's currently losing a few of the fighta bombas to take Landas instead.
The tournament lists have been extensively playtested and seem pretty balanced to me, so just take whatever you want within the limitations.
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:51 pm |
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I am not a guru of Orkoid military so I'll leave it to others to comment on the spcifics.
However, a well rounded combined force will always do better than a specialised airborne force. What you are discussing may be very good for a particular scenario, or even to have a large section of your horde to land in an area, then have your Cult of Speeds and other heavy ground forces to link up with them. But as a generic force to use each time, I would have to say its going to be sub-optimal; you need to taylor for each threat and circumstanc.
Think "A Bridge too Far", 101st Airborne on DDay (thats for you L4!), German Airborne troops in the low countries and so on.
I'll be putting a substantial IG Stormtrooper Valkyrie force for exactly these reasons, but cant see it as a whole formation to use all the time.
but you gotta enjoy yourself .. right? |
Absolutely! If you aren't then you aint doing it right.
Good Luck!
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:56 pm |
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| Quote (Markconz @ 17 2004 Feb.,06:51) | | One of my regular ork opponents has been using 18 fighta bombas (900 points) and just infantry in 3000 point games. ?It's quite a challenge to face. |
Holy Crud! Thats some serious Air Superiority!
Whats you usual counter to this- a mix of Fighter CAP and AAA? Found any special tactics to overcome it?
Dooing the Vietnamese thing of "huggin the enemy" to prevent Airstrikes plays right into the damn Xeno's hands....
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:47 am |
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Tas is correct about the 101 (thanks !  ), V/C-NVA hugging, etc. Airborne/Air Assault forces work well with combined arms mech forces ... I know because I commanded both. Plus I played 100s of Epic games since '90 !  And I certainly look forward to the Stormtroops and their Birds !!!
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:56 am |
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Thank You all for your comments ..
After recieving a slap to the head I realise that ( as fun as it would be ) I need variety and complimentary troops .. damn ive been fiting umans for so long im starting to fink like em!!
Thanks Guys.. I really shouldn't post topics when ive had so little sleep ( and maybe play a few games also ).
Thanks for being understanding to a lowly grot
Im off to but the boxed orc set tonight so ..
The world will burn ... mmmwwhhhaaa 
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:42 am |
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Dont get me wrong- you could have a blast with them.
An Ork airborne assault scenario (aka Apocalypse Now) onto a second line IG garrison unit would be a great game!
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Post subject: Shagrats Skyboyz Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:50 pm |
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I'm sure glad my orky opponent doesn't have all those bommas or landas...I need more Hydras!
my 2cents,
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