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dafrca	Post subject: Ordinatus! Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:26 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:02 pm Posts: 10956 Location: Burbank, CA, USA	Maksim, I was going to answer your questions but I realized this is not about me. At the moment the real issue for you is you. By that I mean, I have to live with my feelings and you have to live with yours. You have received some good advice from many respectable people in this thread. If I was you, I would walk away from this thread and spend a day or two thinking about where you want this to go next. - What is within your control and what is not? - What is your final goal? - Is it worth the emotional investment? - Is it worth the time? - Is your goal achievable at this time? Once you do spend the time, you will know the path you need to take. And at that point, Primarch is right, do not care about the other issues. Focus on the final goal and move forward. As Primarch said ?...it all comes down to how much you care to be on those forums. If at the end of the day it doesn't mean much, then walk away, you got better things to do. But if you do care or have a different vision of how it should be you'll need to change it and it would be unrealistic to espect those involved in the "change" will be happy about it, understand it or otherwise be "irked" by it.? Dafrca. _________________ "Every Man is a But Spark in the Darkness"               - Cities of Death, page 59 Come fight me, if you dare...... http://dd-janks.mybrute.com
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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: Ordinatus! Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:58 am

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Dafrca, I was going to answer your questions but I realized this is not about me. At the moment the real issue for you is you. By that I mean, I have to live with my feelings and you have to live with yours. I really wish you would answer... I could use your feedback because I value it so much, "doo-doo head." You have received some good advice from many respectable people in this thread. If I was you, I would walk away from this thread and spend a day or two thinking about where you want this to go next.

I agree. The discussion has been good and the advice enormously applicable.

I probably will spend an extra few days to think about it, but my mind was pretty much made up some time ago. When we first exchanged correspondence, I had an idea of what to do. The time between that iem and now has been spent examining the issues and trying the alternatives first.

I'm pretty well prepped and ready to go for if and when I decide to take action.

- What is within your control and what is not?

I don't know if it's in my control, but seeing some moderator changes is definitely "do-able."

- What is your final goal?

My final goal is to see the official E-A Playtest Forums become a more pleasant place to chat again.

I'd rather not have the mood level of the forum dependant on whether PG is affable at the moment.

He's told me several times that he was in a cruddy mood when a lot of his worst moves have occurred. Neal is right that some positive changes have occurred, but I don't see "the leopard losing its' spots altogether."

- Is it worth the emotional investment?

I'm "chatting it up" heavily, but I'm not really that emotionally invested in the issue. It matters, but not as much as work, Epic40k.co.uk (Epic's new home), or things that really make a difference. I probably sound "touchy-feely" at times and I care, but I'm not really that emotional.

Ultimately, this forum is more comfy and the other one is both optional and extra. I like to keep up with it because good stuff comes down the pipeline, but the chat is much warmer and open here. Of course, we don't always discuss E-A rules here like mostly happens over there.

- Is it worth the time?

The time investment isn't that bad. It would be about two hours of typing, E-mailing, and editing (give or take) and then the commitment to moderate if I'm chosen, but that really isn't a problem since I already read the posts. Moderating and reading the posts are just about the same thing for me.

- Is your goal achievable at this time?

Yes.

Once you do spend the time, you will know the path you need to take. And at that point, Primarch is right, do not care about the other issues. Focus on the final goal and move forward.

Thanks for the advice.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.