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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:38 pm 
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Yeah, I would stay away from the shadowswords myself.    Warhounds are fragile against those buggers, unless you could jump 'em out of cover.  And any Guard player who leaves his Shadowswords in a weak position like that deserves to have them stomped. :p

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:10 pm 
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As previously mentioned very light on AA, if you ever face Tau.... it will be messy.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:45 pm 
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i would probably let the Landraider in the battle barge, and bring in an additional Terminator formation and a hunter to protect the WW from air. Basically, it's a swap between some ranged AT firepower and some nasty MW CC attacks that can happen anywhere. 2 termies formations allow some nasty deepstrike against heavy foes (Leman russ companies, Super Heavy tanks Coy); you can thus either start crippling two of those and leave them weakened for the Warhound to finish the job, or combine the 2 termies dets to make a mess of such buggers.
You could even consider taking a warhound out to bring in some landspeeders and get an additional character; i would advise a comander or a chaplain in one of the terminator formation; you can get the landspeeder to double and shoot at a formation, then use them as support when a chaplain augmented Termies det get close and personal with them. It give you a bucketload of MW attack; the landspeeder can do such nastyness from 80 cm away, inspiring and an additional MW for the termies are quite good. A comander would allow you to combine assault with both terminator formations; this should do short work of most thing you can encounter, including very big stuff; even a warlord should be carefull when risking this.
However, your army seem quite solid - if a bit thin on AA - and if it work, well, it work and that's what matter.

But if i remember corectly, you play DA, and i thought adding termies and landspeeder could ring a bell to you, and i must say i quite like the tactics those formation allow (like what i mentioned earlier). but i can understand you'd be sad to let one of those lovely warhounds at home. I certainly love those too; their MW attacks also come in handy for Space marines army, but termies and LS can fulfill that role.
Well, those are only first sight suggestion anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:05 pm 
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Great advise all.....thanks.
My only real problem in EA is that I get attached to certain units (Landraiders) and it kills me to leave them in the fig case:( .
As you have pointed out, I could find a better use for the massive 400 points the LR's take up.
Better air defense is definitely a priority though. I think I will add a hunter to the WW detachment at least.
The other advantage I have found with using several small formations rather then fewer larger formations is that it when my IG opponent opens up with his 900 point Monster SHT company he has to fire at one formation only. Sure he completely Devastates my Devastators o:p ....but he also has allot of left over firepower wasted on my much smaller unit.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:42 am 
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I agree with you Hetzer, my Tac Dets deploy with Land Raiders and Dev Dets with Rhinos or Razorbacks.  That's S.O.P. for us, in most cases !  And still we use SM1 TO&Es, mostly and have used activation since then ('90). So we keep our units small ... and it works for us !    :;):

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:02 pm 
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Hi guys,

      I need to set up an Ork army for my mate to play with against my Dark Angels :). In the interests of fairness I thought I would get your help, in case I got accused of being bias. I have almost all the miniatures in the range, so models aren't an option. (and of course the report will be submitted to Incoming!)

      It will be a standard tournament game against 2700 points of marines, the player is a newbie to EPIC (although has wargamed for over a decade with me). The battle is on sunday, I am not sure what i'll be taking, but might use this opportunity to try out all the units I haven't used yet :).

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:07 pm 
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Well could I recommend the following

1. Great Gargant (incl. Warlord) (Most Expensive) ? 850pts
2. Big Warband Plus 1 extra Ork and Grot ? 375pts
3. Big Warband ? 350pts
4. Warband Plus Flakwagon & 4 Battlewagons ? 375pts
5. Blitz Brigade 1x Flakwagon, 2 x Gunwagons & Oddboy Supa-Zzapp Wagon ? 200pts
6. Blitz Brigade 1x Flakwagon, 2 x Gunwagons & Oddboy Supa-Zzapp Wagon ? 200pts
7. Kult of Speed 8 x Bikes ? 200pts
8. Stormboyz ? 150pts

It will give a good feel to several elements of the army and the GG will certainly give your marines a few problems :D

I also found a list very similar to this surprisingly successful at the WPS Club Challenge in 2004.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:23 pm 
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Looks good to me :), just gotta figure out how to crush it with my marines now :S, fighting Orks is radically different from Tau bashing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:07 pm 
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Quote (netepic @ 29 2005 July,13:23)
Looks good to me :), just gotta figure out how to crush it with my marines now :S, fighting Orks is radically different from Tau bashing.

Well if you do work out how to do it, please tell me. I have great problems playing with Marines and am one of the crowd that think that they are not really a tournament army in their current condition.

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*winces* well, you will get to see my army get crushed in amazing technicolour then in Incoming!... I will PM you the result though so you don't have to wait ;).

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