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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:14 pm 
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Again, as we said before - this is still a work in progress. He may make a list like he did for SM, IG, & Ork models that were dropped ?  Like Thud Guns, M/mortars, Gorgans etc.?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:18 pm 
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>> So in a way there will be three Chaos lists by the time Jervis is done.

The plan is to put out the core armies every 6 months, and modified lists for different factions in Firepower, but not on a set schedule.

So, there will be lots of army lists, supposedly at least 5 CSM:

Feral orks (Boarz and Weirdboyz - yay!)
Eldar - Ulthwe, Alaitoc, etc.
CSM - Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, possibly more
SM - DA, BA, SW, etc.

They're supposed to have minor differences in organization and possibly a handful of special units/rules.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 10:17 pm 
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Quote (CyberShadow @ 09 2003 July,01:51)
So, does this mean that if I put together something (both minis and new rules) based on the previous Chaos list, it will all meet up in the end anyway?

In due course, the cultists will be back (Huzzah!) so they should meet up and you wont have wasted you time...in the end ???

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Hell, I am going to do my own thing and put a force together using the older lists. Thanks guys.

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Hell, I am going to do my own thing and put a force together using the older lists. Thanks guys.

It wont be wasted work.  My gut feeling is that when they do appear, they will be very simialr to what was previously available.  Its just that JJ didnt have the time now to fully chnage, modify and incorporate the good ideas on them...sadly

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:25 am 
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Neal,

The plan is to put out the core armies every 6 months, and modified lists for different factions in Firepower, but not on a set schedule.
So, there will be lots of army lists, supposedly at least 5:
Feral Orks - (Boarz and Weirdboyz - yay!)
Eldar - Ulthwe, Alaitoc, etc.
CSM - Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, possibly more...
SM - DA, BA, SW, etc.
They're supposed to have minor differences in organization and possibly a handful of special units/rules.


Thanks for the news.

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Hell, I am going to do my own thing and put a force together using the older lists. Thanks guys.


In the long run, I think Epic A is better served if a  large fan base of material like alternate army lists with more fluff can be produced or even showcased in the epic magazine. I think it would be a mistake for GW to try to limit this sort of creativity. The more gamers adapt the game to their tastes by modifications and tweaks the more acceptance the game will have. I hope GW can implement this idea.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:55 am 
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Quote (nealhunt @ 08 2003 July,15:03)
I may even be tempted to write up a Thousand Sons fan list. :L


I've never played with or against chaos, but I would be interested in these.

I am finishing off my 1K sons army for 40K, and I like to try and have an Epic force of my 40K ones.

Do you have any ideas for it?
How about all the marine stands having an invulnerable save or something?


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I'm looking forward to creating slimy hordes of Nurgle worshippers from the Death Guard Traitor Legion.......

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OK. So now I am confused again - a fairly normal state for me.

How many army lists will there be?

Black Legion
Legion of the Damned
Marine lists for the four powers - World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Emperors Children

So, if I want to put together a Marine Slaanesh force that is not Emps Kids, I should use the Black Legion list?

And if I want to do a Khorne force with lots of Daemon engines and cultists - legion of the damned?

And for the project that I am working on now (which will be on my site and I will send it to the netzine) I will just make stuff up! ?:p

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A number of people on the E:A forum had also expressed interest in the Iron Warriors legion some time back and had worked on a list, but I'm not sure how far they progressed. ?Now this may be just wishful thinking on my part, and I'm not trying to start any rumors or anything, but I think Jervis had also commented on this specific legion and the possibility it left open for various seige engine type miniatures. ?But, I guess we'll have to wait and see what actually traspires.

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Well guys, don't overract !  It (Chaos) is still very much a work in progress and make your thoughts known to J.J. !  It may or may not help, but you all know what I'm going to say next - If the rules don't have who or what you want - change it.  How often do you play League or Tournament Games ?  You can have Khorne allied with Slann (?)!  I'm sure no one is going to care what you do in the privacy of your game room.  Hell, we still have Squats (both Chaos and Imperial) and Jervis or the =][= has yet to pay us a visit ... :laugh:

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Quote (Legion 4 @ 10 2003 July,09:05)
Hell, we still have Squats (both Chaos and Imperial) and Jervis or the =][= has yet to pay us a visit ... :laugh:

What about Kitty ?... :D
(its been awhile sicnce she was mentioned!)

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Hi!

Looks like Kitty is becoming the forums mascot, the name appears in a lot of threads.... :p

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Legion:  Just so you know, it appears as if no one is playtesting the Chaos list anymore because it is so unbalanced.  It's a low priority for Jervis since Nids and Eldar were moved up the schedule.  I suspect he will do a big revamp (again) in a couple months.

Right now, he seems to be concentrating on making the final touches to the SM, IG, and Ork lists, as well as some minor rule tweaks.  They need to go to the printer in September.  Nids are a second-tier priority.

Anyway, when Jervis starts up Chaos stuff again, I plan on making a big pitch for some changes I want to see.

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