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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:13 pm 
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I had a look at the new codex in the shop at WHworld yesterday and was pretty impressed - plenty of good fluff

It seems to mesh the original traitors and newer renegades well. The BL and some of the others seemed to be a core of original BL with renegades from more recently providing the bulk. Which could be represented easily with the current list if you wanted to.

Other things I noticed were that not all EC were noise marines, the DG also were formed around core of DG with traitors who found special favour with Nurgle joining them.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:37 pm 
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FromWarseer:

The Terminus is 3 twin-linked lascannons and 2 sponson mounted single lascannons. The sponsons in front of the usual twin-linked lascannon sponsons are single lascannon sponsons using a Predator sprue. The twin-linked lascannons on top, which replace the usual heavy bolters, are built from a Razorback sprue.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:56 pm 
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(BlackLegion @ Aug. 05 2007,16:37)
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FromWarseer:

The Terminus is 3 twin-linked lascannons and 2 sponson mounted single lascannons. The sponsons in front of the usual twin-linked lascannon sponsons are single lascannon sponsons using a Predator sprue. The twin-linked lascannons on top, which replace the usual heavy bolters, are built from a Razorback sprue.

The Terminus is were buses live.  :p  :p

3 twin-linkes and 2 single lascannons? Sounds like an Iron Warriors army recast into a tank.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:21 pm 
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Here are more:




Looks strange.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:34 pm 
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Oh dear. Me no like!  :(

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:10 am 
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Oh dear. Me no like! ?:(

I agree.  Seems a little overdone.

I've always thought the side twin-lascannon mounts should be the "front" ones not the back ones, seems odd that you'd debus *in front* of your transport's guns!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:31 am 
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(Chroma @ Aug. 06 2007,00:10)
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(CyberShadow @ Aug. 05 2007,22:34)
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Oh dear. Me no like!  :(

I agree.  Seems a little overdone.

I've always thought the side twin-lascannon mounts should be the "front" ones not the back ones, seems odd that you'd debus *in front* of your transport's guns!

Preach the word brother! I've said the same thing a hundred times, people out there just don't seem to understand...  :D  
Stick the guns on the front. Applies even more to the Crusader.

As I said in the other thread, I dislike that Terminus pattern LR too. Just looks silly.

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Otterman
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:40 am 
The wacky forward sponsons block the firing arc of the rear sponsons. Should have stuck them on top, like a razorback turret.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:41 am 
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Next up - twin-linked lascannon upgrades for the single lascannon turrets, and an extra set for the top of the beastie. Not to mention a quad mount sticking out of the front ramp.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:27 am 
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Brilliant work... Let's build a tank that will only be able to fire 1/4 of it's guns at a target...

Smells a bit too much like a "let's make an new ?ber tank that the cheesemongers and kids getting into the hobby is going to want..."

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:18 pm 
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(Chroma @ Aug. 05 2007,20:10)
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I've always thought the side twin-lascannon mounts should be the "front" ones not the back ones, seems odd that you'd debus *in front* of your transport's guns!

My nephew thought the exact same thing. So, when he builds his Land Raider variants, he always swaps the positions of the doors and weapons.

I agree, it's bit over the top.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:24 pm 
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WTF is that garbage?!?!?  I don't mind the "Lascannon Porcupine" look, but do these eeediots know anything about firing arcs and tactics?  How about their own crap-riddled rules?  Unless stuff is going to be able to split fire (how dare they introduce something realistic) having those turrets block fire is stupid.

I rate this: craptastic

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Warmaster Nice
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I might have been persuaded by the idea if the models had been done more elegantly; ie. quad lascannons in each sponson (Which could be enlarged to cover both side hatch holes).

Hena hit the head on the nail with his remark though.

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