Hulloa. How can I help with making the Fir Iolarion list tournament-legal? I play quite a bit, I just found my old Eldar titans, and I am available to assist. Please let me know, yeah?

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That seems too easy and logical.

It must be a trap!!

No, it's that easy...

I'm in discussions with someone who may be interested in becoming Sub-AC for the list..

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Not against change, so long as it done fairly and no one is left behind....

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Played against this list the other day. I brought an AMTL list (I didn't know what my opponent would be bringing so I had an all-comers list).

I was pretty terrified of the army that set up opposite me to start with (all that multi-DC TK weaponry!), but due to a couple of mistakes my opponent made early on, I won 4-0 (with so few activations for each player, Titanfights swing heavily in favour of one or the other player in a way that's difficult to recover from).

Thoughts:

When did the Warlock Titan lose the ability to summon the Avatar?

Autarch at 75pts seems too expensive?

Not especially keen about the thematics of having a Guardian formation in a Titan-themed army.

Do not leave Phantom or Warlock Titans within counter-move range of a Warlord Titan with three fully charged Plasma Cannons; they are melty.

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That game was against me, I'm going to do some testing with this list. This was my first few games using eldar I also have an new Iyanden army. I'm not sure if it was a typo on the ref. but the war walker didn't have the bright lance, we decided that it did for the game.
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3000 POINTS FIR IOLARION ELDAR TITAN CLAN 4.2.1
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WARLOCK TITAN [925]
1 Warlock Titan, Psychic Lance, Power Fist, Titan Autarch

PHANTOM TITAN [775]
1 Phantom Titan, Power Fist, D-Cannon

PHANTOM TITAN [775]
1 Phantom Titan, Titan Pulsar, Power Fist

GUARDIAN TROUPE [375]
7 Guardian Units, Farseer Unit, 4 Wave Serpents

WAR WALKER TROUPE [150]
4 War Walkers

Has there been any movement on sub-AC?

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I'm hoping to get in some more games in the next few weeks. The thing that's been hardest for me with this list is that any army with serious, normal AT attacks in abundance is a nightmare.

Leman Russ Companies and Tau Hammerheads have slain many a battle titan with contemptuous ease.

Thanks for the report guys and the feed back...

Opps, sorry about that..Yeah the Walker should have Bright lance...

Movement on the Sub-ac has been slow, since I have been tide up with getting other sub-ac up and running and trying to get supplement stuff going..and RL getting in the way again...

The warlock lost its ability to summon the avatar, way back when i took over, since it was a cut and paste issue when Dave changed over to the new format..I retested the issue and it didn't past the board, so since 2014 the warlock cant summon the avatar...

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Some errors i don't mind

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Huh, I thought it was always in the Eldar rules, apparently not!

It would be a cool ability for the Warlock Titan in this particular army list, mind you?

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Perhaps give the titan autarch the ability to summon avatar because I agree with E&C having the guardians troupe is not in theme.

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The Wraithlord Spiritseers can still summon the Avatar in the current list like they can in the Iyanden one. It is a very mean thing to do.

For the Warlock to do it it would need to be an upgrade you pay for and that pushes it close to 1000 points. I've been having trouble getting mine to survive Turn 1 recently so I've been looking for ways to make it cheaper rather than more expensive.

For instance I don't use it as my SC. That job goes to a twin pulsar Phantom who's mission is to stay the hell out of engagements while ruining things from long range.

I'd see it as a free ability in this list personally rather than a paid upgrade. I never found it a problem back when my gaming group thought Warlocks natively had the ability anyway.

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Yes very true...

I like to see the guardians remove and add the wraith knights in, which are begin tested in the Yme-loc list..and also add the Farseer character from the Saim-hann and yme-loc, which would give the titian the ability to summon the Avatar, if given the upgrade....

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I'm using eldar titans in a game tonight not sure what I'm facing. So I have dropped a phantom for a single revenant and replaced the guardians with wraithlords this means with spare points I can take a formation of nightwings, so I can CAP/intercept enemy aircraft or snipe artillery/deathstrikes, I also have an extra formation.
My list
3000 POINTS FIR IOLARION ELDAR TITAN CLAN 4.2.1
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WARLOCK TITAN [925]
1 Warlock Titan, Psychic Lance, Power Fist, Titan Autarch

PHANTOM TITAN [875]
1 Phantom Titan, Power Fist, D-Cannon, Titan Extarch

REVENANT TITAN [400]
1 Revenant Titan, Pulsar Laser x2

WRAITHLORD TROUPE [350]
6 Wraithlords

WAR WALKER TROUPE [150]
4 War Walkers

NIGHTWING INTERCEPTOR [300]
3 Nightwing Fighters

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