Steve54 wrote:
I don't think Warlock use is that rare, certainly its quite frequently seen in the UK. Letting it summon the Avatar is an unneeded boost.
SG never presented the change for approval so it was never approved. At best its a typo.
Ok, but in the UK the Avatar can not be summoned by the Warlock even if we change it here, right?
I was just quoting Dave when he said that SG approved the change, not the ERC...
Dave wrote:
Saying that it's been used for the last two years is a fallacy. If that were true we would have seen it brought up sooner and we'd have plenty of battle reports of the Warlock summoning the avatar. From there it would be a simple matter for PFE to throw it up to Tim for him to rubber stamp it and the ERC to vote on it. We don't have reps like that though, hence my assumption that people simply didn't notice it.
The recent changes that were approved were absolutely tested, see PFE100's Beil-tan playtests:
search.php?keywords=&terms=all&author=pfe100&fid%5B%5D=84&sc=1&sf=titleonly&sk=t&sd=d&sr=topics&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=SearchNot all were approved, mainly because more than a few of us thought they weren't tested enough.
As to the process for approval, see here:
viewtopic.php?f=69&t=24023ok, like I said the Avatar is no biggie for me so do what ever you think is best. I will probobly never have to face one myself

Perhaps I'm stupid but I have read the document several times before and it clearly states that 3 different playgroups need 6 games each before the list can be sent to the ERC. Also the games have to be played using the Epic tournament play rules.
PFE100 have been very good at doing battlereports no question about it but he is not three independent groups and he has played with different "versions" of the rules. (And used some houserules: CAP a CAP and not using the webbway portal when enemies is within 15cm for example)
The AMTL list was refused because two or three games of 18 was played against EpicUK list just to put things in perspective

(I'm not saying the changes was not tested I'm just saying that the document you linked to was not used by the ERC. I do not mind, if that is ok then I can have the 18th game with the Spacewolfs and the list can be put forward to be approved

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