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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:20 pm 
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Hi!

When I was straightening out the whole spacecraft thing with Tactica a while back, I did up stats for each Tau capital ship (as well as bombardment values for each). Most of the other ship designs were dropped from the list to save space - plus there wasn't much need for them in the pdf in any event.

However, I have given some thought to the use of the Protector model as a stand-in for the Hero, and it seems that the Protector herself would be an interesting ship to add to the Collector's section - or even use as a part of the Gue'senshi pdf (which, of course, would conflict with my plan to use the Protectors as Morays! Oh well... Maybe one day we can get FW to do a proper Moray for us)

So, without further ado:

LAR'SHI'VRE (PROTECTOR) CLASS CRUISER - 175 points
The main combat vessel of the new Kor'vattra Qath'fannor, the lar'shi'vre has already made a significant name for itself as a major factor in the success of the Kor'or'vesh development project.
The Lar'shi'vre possesses a superior warp dive system to those of most other Tau starships as well as a comparable level of firepower to its larger cousin, the Lar'shi, with a relative reduction in ordnance aboard. This allows the Lar'shi'vre to serve as an effective rapid-deployment vessel, able to swiftly reply to piracy raids on the Empire's shipping lanes, launch commerce raids along the borders of Tau space, as well as deploy as part of a Qath'fannor battlegroup in a fleet engagement.  
In a similar manner of operation to the Astartes strike cruiser, it also serves a valuable role as a means of deploying rapid strike teams onto enemy worlds, where a single Manta or squadron of Morays and Orcas can be enough to launch a surgical strike against a carefully-selected target on the surface, or turn the tide in an ongoing campaign on the planet. The Dal'yth Qath'fannor has seen use for single or paired Lar'shi'vres in deploying Gue'senshi companies and Hunter Cadres in the Lithesh sector, either as a means of striking the logistical network of the Navy in the region, or in concert with the Or'es El'leath as part of a large-scale planetary incursion.


Type  Speed  Armour  Close Combat  Firefight
Spacecraft  n/a  n/a  n/a  n/a
Weapon  Range  Firepower  Notes
2 x Pin-point attack  n/a  MW 2+  Titan Killer (D3)
Protector Gravitic Tracer Salvo  n/a  4x MW6+  Guided Missiles
Notes: Transport (may carry up to 3 morays and/or Orcas plus any troops carried in them; Mantas (plus any trooper in them) can also be carried by count as three craft for transport capacity purposes)


Note for Orbital Bombardment entry:

Protector  n/a  3BP  Macro-weapon


As I say, I'm thinking of adding it to the Gue'senshi list, but I'm still left with the quandary of what kind of craft would be suitable for transporting the heavier Kleist units onto a planetary surface, any thoughts in that regard?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:29 pm 
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I noted this across in the CPF threads at SG forums, but what about the Emissary, perhaps not as part of the full list, but beating out rules for it seem wise to me...

Type  Speed  Armour  Close Combat  Firefight
Spacecraft  n/a  n/a  n/a  n/a
Weapon  Range  Firepower  Notes
Pin-point attack  n/a  MW 2+  Titan Killer (D3)
Emissary Gravitic Tracer Salvo  n/a  4x MW6+  Guided Missiles
Notes: Transport (may carry up to 2 Orcas plus any troops carried in them; and up to four Barracuda Fighters.


Note for Orbital Bombardment entry:

Emissary  n/a  1BP  Macro-weapon

The Ion Cannon outfit of the Emissary may be replaced by Gravitic Hooks allowing a squadron of Kir'la or Kass'l gunships to escort the starship at Y and Zpts respectively. These count as the following ammendments:

Kir'la
Pin-point attack  becomes
2 x Pin-point attack n/a  MW 2+  Titan Killer (D3)

Kass'l
Orbital Bombardment notes becomes
Emissary  n/a  3BP  Macro-weapon

Now, being absolutely uninformed about the balance issues of Epic, I feel it's best left to other people to 'thrash it out'. Any comments?[NB- I think I got the weapon conversions about right, yes?]

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:53 am 
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Hmm, I'm not too sure about using Kir'las or Kass'ls in conjunction with the Il'porrui, and the stats for the other cap ships (Il'fannor, too) were pared out of the list to keep the total number of ships at a reasonable - to many - level.

I had actually done up stats for each cap ship in the Kor'vattra - and your Emissary looks spot on, unless the BFG forumites are convinced to swap that fourth missile strength for a launch bay! - but it didn't wash, sadly...

And Xisor, I don't agree with the direct drop idea for the Tau - have a look in my Tau lander comments in the relevant thread here to see why - and it's something that the Emissary having a launchbay would negate the need for in any event.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:49 am 
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I'm looking in IA3, and the emissary has launch bays big enough for two Mantas...this is the official list for the CPF isn't it?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:30 am 
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Depends, Specialist Games has deemed the Tau fleet from IA3 unofficial because it isn't balanced. I have to agree.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:31 pm 
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Yup, I agree to. Of course, I'm biased, but the one worked on over at the SG forum seems to be alot more 'appropriate' and reasonable from a game perspective. Whilst the IA3 has redeeming qualities...there isn't even a fleet list.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:13 pm 
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And as has been mentioned, the IA3 list is not and will never be official - whereas the forum list at least has a chance of making it into the mix.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:15 pm 
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True, though I've not seen other lists for it other than the original SG CPF one (which didn't seem very competitive compared to the standard fleet) and the IA3 one.

Will have to go and have a look - I know I mention it everytime the Tau fleet comes up, but do you think it would be possible to replace the 'Q's with 'K's. Tau names with letters Tau don't use is one of my pet hates here. Perhaps we can put the original 'misspellings' of the names down to the Imperials messing up the phonetic translations. Some lexmechanic eating a bug or something.


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Check out the current Forum list over at http://www.specialist-games.com/forum/t ... IC_ID=2742 (and the WIP fancy version at http://www.specialist-games.com/forum/t ... IC_ID=2703 to get an idea of where we're going with the final forum work design-wise)

That list is still in refinement, and it's the basis for my ship stats in this list.


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