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| Author: | yme-loc [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:54 pm ] | |||
| Post subject: | Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) | |||
This is the up to date version of the Tau Third Phase Expansion Force army list, it is basically the version 6.5 list with a single change of a 25pts increase in cost to the Broadsides formation. This is the current version of the list that is included in the recent 2013 NetEA Tournament Pack.
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| Author: | Corran_dk [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Nice, thank you for you work 
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| Author: | Parintachin [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Thank you. I'd suggest adding an option for adding three pathfinder units to a foot fire warrior formation, instead of two pathfinders and a devilfish; that single devilfish looks really odd in the formation. I'd simply change the wording of the pathfinder upgrade to "Add two Pathfinder units and one Devilfish, or three pathfinder units". |
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| Author: | GlynG [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
The new Tau Codex lost the old requirement for Pathfinders to come with a Devilfish, they can now be on foot. Whether you choose to adopt that or not is up to you, I have no particular opinion on it. |
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| Author: | Parintachin [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Is there any actual reason for raising the cost of the broadsides? They seem overpriced at 300. |
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| Author: | yme-loc [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Parintachin wrote: Is there any actual reason for raising the cost of the broadsides? They seem overpriced at 300. A slightly loaded question I feel, but one of the joys of internet communication I think. If they feel underpowered to you at 300pts then me saying your wrong and they are really good and needed a slight points increase is probably not going to convince you  .
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| Author: | yme-loc [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
[youtube][/youtube] Parintachin wrote: Thank you. I'd suggest adding an option for adding three pathfinder units to a foot fire warrior formation, instead of two pathfinders and a devilfish; that single devilfish looks really odd in the formation. I'd simply change the wording of the pathfinder upgrade to "Add two Pathfinder units and one Devilfish, or three pathfinder units". The Pathfinder upgrade having a Devilfish is deliberate. it might originally have been that way because of background reasons and to follow the old Tau codex. Changing it now has implications for air drop style lists and it won't be something that happens in the Third Phase list. |
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| Author: | Spectrar Ghost [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Yeah, I keep wishing I could attach them to airdropped Firewarriors. But having organic 'Lights in an airdrop seems... Too good to be true. |
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| Author: | Parintachin [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Alright; sorry. The underlying problem is that there seems to be other issues with the list, and that there seems to be little to no communication about them. For example, the suggestion I gave a few posts up has not been adressed. Was I being rude, suggesting that pathfinders could be added to a firewarriors formation without the need to add a devilfish? Is my wording wrong? Do I write it in the wrong place? Has real life stopped communication? I'm left with the feeling of a list admin who is not really interrested in the community, and makes arbitrary decisions without really wanting to discuss, give reasons or engaging the community in any meaningful way. Thus my kinda crass comment. I know you're a huge asset to the EA community, and I'm not expecting you to swoon all over any ideas I or anyone else in the community comes up with, but it seems there Could be a little more openness. |
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| Author: | Parintachin [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
yme-loc wrote: Changing it now has implications for air drop style lists and it won't be something that happens in the Third Phase list. This post is the exact essence of what I'm talking about. Please take a look at it again. Do you feel you come across as constructive and open to discussion? Are there ways to solving the problem that are more elegant? Have you considered my argument, or are you just trying to find ways of dismissing it? |
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| Author: | yme-loc [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Parintachin wrote: yme-loc wrote: Changing it now has implications for air drop style lists and it won't be something that happens in the Third Phase list. This post is the exact essence of what I'm talking about. Please take a look at it again. Do you feel you come across as constructive and open to discussion? Are there ways to solving the problem that are more elegant? Have you considered my argument, or are you just trying to find ways of dismissing it? I am sorry you might feel this way and indeed I try to respond to direct suggestions with regards lists as quickly as possible. However I think you fall down sometimes with regards the Third Phase list in that it is an approved list, changes to the list have to be small and not have implications regarding balance. The ability to add Pathfinders as points efficient upgrades to air dropped Fire Warrior formations has balance implications and is removing a degree of synergy and co-ordination which is what the list tries to achieve. Now I have seen posts by you saying how you enjoyed using Pathfinders added to Fire Warriors and I understand you might then be frustrated with the lack of such an option in the main list. But the lack of an option is not in of itself a reason to change an approved list - only a balance reason should change an approved list. Pathfinders as an upgrade option will probably be available in newer lists and indeed I believe Matt-Shadowlords Vior'la list uses just such an option and will be balanced around it. |
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| Author: | Dobbsy [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
More screwing with the list for no reason. This is ridiculous. Is it your intention to completely kill this list? I guess if I wait long enough I'll get to find out but by then I will have stopped playing it. Top marks.... |
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| Author: | Parintachin [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Let me get you straight: You refuse to consider the suggestion, not because it is really problematic, but because the list has been approved, and thus cannot be changed other than minor points adjustments. |
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| Author: | Parintachin [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Dobbsy wrote: More screwing with the list for no reason. This is ridiculous. Is it your intention to completely kill this list? I guess if I wait long enough I'll get to find out but by then I will have stopped playing it. Top marks.... Could you arrognace that up for me? |
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| Author: | Dobbsy [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tau Army List v 6.6 (Approved) |
Parintachin wrote: Dobbsy wrote: More screwing with the list for no reason. This is ridiculous. Is it your intention to completely kill this list? I guess if I wait long enough I'll get to find out but by then I will have stopped playing it. Top marks.... Could you arrognace that up for me? This wasn't aimed at you Parintichin.... |
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