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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry?  Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:16 am |
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ROFLMAO
wait till somebody moves their models into tanks into the woods and forgets to roll for dangerous terrain in my next game... I'll look at them with a question...
"GoTJ ?"
OK ... going home now...
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:41 pm |
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What else do you call it when you're rolling to see if your 250-pt uber-chaplain-o-doom smacks into a tree headfirst, removing himself from the rest of the battle?
I should admit, I've had a Shas'o jump into and out of terrain 12 times (over 6 turns) sniping tanks with a fusion blaster, and just laugh at the puny trees (made 12 tests).
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:48 pm |
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| Quote (Tactica @ 21 Nov. 2005 (22:29)) | "george of the jungle test"
ROFLMAO - I found that flashback particularly hilarious. |
Ah yes, that does bring back childhood memories! 
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:57 am |
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:35 pm |
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:48 pm |
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Obliterators (a unit with the same numbers per base and general purposes) are infantry. |
The basing can be changed if deemed necessary to fit the style of the unit.
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:18 pm |
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| Quote (Soulless1 @ 23 Nov. 2005 (10:57)) | As far as damage is concerned, what you have to remember is that although crisis suits are often targeted by AT weapons in 40k, the chance of a single lascannon (for example) killing an entire squad (read: one stand) of crisis suits in one go is exactly 0%! Of course, a space marine missile launcher could theoretically kill a whole squad in one shot...but only using its frag missiles - equivalent to using its AI value in epic.
We have to remember that EA is a game based on whole armies and combat is viewed from the squad level. AT weapons just wouldn't have the rate of fire to be worth taking into account in an anti-battlesuit role. |
That's an excellent point Soulless! Thanks for posting it.
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:07 am |
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hey dobbs,
I like that icon blown up better now 
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:38 am |
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I am really starting to not care. I just want to make sure that it is known that if they are made LV, then they are a target for every single weapon in the enemy army, AV and AP. If they start dropping like flys and people still refuse to make them Infantry, just increase their firepower, or reduce their points.
If they are made infantry, and they are more diffucult to remove than terminators, oblits, demons, etc... then you can do the opposite. From those other examples it follows they should be infantry, but in the end I don't care as long as they are balanced appropiately.
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:14 am |
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| Quote (Soulless1 @ 23 Nov. 2005 (10:57)) | | As far as damage is concerned, what you have to remember is that although crisis suits are often targeted by AT weapons in 40k, the chance of a single lascannon (for example) killing an entire squad (read: one stand) of crisis suits in one go is exactly 0%! |
Nor can heavy bolter for that matter...But we are talking about period of multiple shots so it's not one go but sustained firing.
And single lascannon will take out 3 crisis + their drones heck of a lot faster than 1 HB will.
But anyway drones shouldn't be concidered for that unless you want to reduce their armour save. Drones are taken into concideration in the armour save already. Drones good but not THAT good that they should give double advantage. Especially as drones don't contribute to unit's firepower yet heavy bolter(or other AP weapons) will be killing crisis suits at so slow rate that...Well you can pretty much ignore them._________________ www.tneva.net
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:27 pm |
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I am starting to get like Red Devil, I don't care.
The truth is there are valid arguments on both sides of the issue, and even some silly ones, and IMHO in the end it is a judgement call as to whether they should be Infantry, LV or even AV (as per Dreadnoughts).
I repeat this a hundred times, you cannot make direct correlations across from WH40k to Epic-A and then make valid absolute arguments based upon that correlation. JJ has said many times WH40k is a guidline not a hard fast line that must be followed. It makes sense as the scales are so different.
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:48 am |
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Like I said, I see the C/suits = dreads ... maybe it's just me !
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:45 am |
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Amen Brother D!
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:12 am |
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So do I Dobbsy!
Cheers!
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) would be eliminated as well.
